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Most Dangerous Threat To Liberty Is The Threat To Kill And Destroy
Written by: Anonymous75
        Every passing day, we are facing the barrel of the gun if not just minutes away from a terrorist’s ticking bomb. No threat to life, liberty and freedom is more dangerous than this threat of being killed or bombed to kingdom
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Comment by: panocha
   Entered on: 2012-05-18 08:28:05

I can hardly believe your comments are true. Is PureTrust really that old with such medical condition? It gives me the creeps because this is the guy who wanted to arrange a meeting date with me! Ay, Mama mia!

Comment by:
   Entered on: 2012-05-18 08:17:04

 Psychiatrists are like vultures. They don't want to cure your depression. They just want to suck Medicare benefits, especially  from older people in a delirium who could not afford to buy a better private insurance.  I sympathize those in this situation where mentally infirmed elders like PureTrust are in. I hope Obama can do something about it, not Romney, a tool of his fund-raising corporate America, who would make private insurance even more expensive to millions of poor elderly like PureTrust.

Comment by: brag
   Entered on: 2012-05-18 07:56:42

Let me introduce myself to you, PureTrust hoping that you are awake without your medication. My name is Brag, and I am not bragging when I say you need my advice: Go meet your doctor again. Ask to double, no, quadruple, the mg of your medicine for depression. Your paranoia is getting worse every day. Your delusion and delirium are now critical and dangerous.

I think Ano-75 who has been trying to help you, had given up hands down with you. I don’t think he would waste his time with you anymore, otherwise he would be foolish to continue picking up and putting together a broken mind that cracked and scattered on the floor. That’s you, PureTrust – merciful you, who deserved the readers’ antipathy rather than sympathy.

Your latest delirium is that the U.S. Government is Germany in WWII. No, PureTrust. We are not anymore in WWII. We are no longer at war with Germany. Believe me, I am a soldier committed to put my life on the line once war breaks out with any foreign country. Our war with Germany was almost sixty years ago.

Furthermore, the U.S. Federal Government is not the Third Reich that you still see in your hallucinating mind. There is no Hitler, and no Nazis here, in this land of the free. Hitler has long been dead. The Nazis existed in Hitler’s Germany before, and like Hitler, had long been gone.

The United States is no Rome either, which in your extremely delusional mind, is ruled by emperors. We have presidents elected by the American people themselves. We do not have a Nero in the United States who came to power by assassination.

We only have PureTrust and his likes who want to burn down White House to ashes as their target of insuperable hatred. We also have terrorists, local and foreign, who would like to bring the U.S. Government down to its knees, and we also have dangerous psychopaths like Larken Rose who wants to kill government officials and shoot cops dead.

I am honestly hoping you get well, PureTrust. Consult your doctor one more time, otherwise fire him if he continues to be inutile. It is no use retaining him as a parasite of your hard-earned Medicare benefits.

Comment by: PureTrust
   Entered on: 2012-05-17 10:31:11

Much of what Anonymous75 says in this letter is true. Here is the BIG question. How do we know that the people in Government are NOT the ones perpetrating the largest terrorism on us?

When you look at the history of nations, it is often the people in governmental offices in those nations, that harmed the citizens of those nations.

Consider ancient Rome. Two things happened regarding terrorism. At times, the Roman government protected the common people and expanded their prosperity - good anti-terrorism. At other times, it was the government officials, constantly fighting over wealth and power, that harmed the common people, and ultimately destroyed Rome - terrorists in government.

The term "terrorism" - and all its associated terms - are almost never used with regard to the fall of Rome, but the results that happened to the Roman people are the same results that happen in terrorism. And it was done to them by their government.

Consider, also, the example of war-torn, post WWI Germany. Hitler, the Nazi Party and the Third Reich took fallen, helpless Germany, from weakness, to one of the most powerful nations in the world at that time. And they did it in about 6 years.

Hitler and the Nazis were the government of Germany. Yet they were the ones who ultimately perpetrated all different forms of terrorism on the people of Germany as well as the rest of the world.

So, how does any common person in the USA know that the U.S. Government is not the biggest terrorist that we have run into in our time? How can any of us tell, for sure, that our Government has nothing to do with the perpetrating of terrorism in some form in the U.S.? We don't know. And we can't know. We hope that they are not. But WE DO NOT KNOW FORE SURE!

The U.S. Government is in a position to use terrorism against its citizens, way more than anyone else in the whole wide world. Because of this, much of the "Most Dangerous Threat..." letter is entirely accurate. But the focus is extremely incomplete. Why? Because it does not include at least consideration that some Government agencies, or some Government officials, might be the terrorists, here in good ol' USA, just as has happened with many other nations and their Governments.

In fact, the trust that this author expresses about his Government, ignoring potential within-Government terrorists, while firmly expressing as delusional anyone who would consider the potential existence of within-Government terrorists, shows that this author is at best delusional, and at worst, one of the Government terrorists.
 

Comment by: Kanumptsen
   Entered on: 2012-05-17 09:38:07

I read the whole article just now. This terrorist threat to life besides the threat to liberty and freedom is so scary it really disturbs me.  Thanks for this public warning.

Comment by: brag
   Entered on: 2012-05-16 12:55:46

To Suka wanting to know if Larken Rose can be re-arrested as a tax felon by profiting from the sale of his books and videos encouraging taxpayers not to pay their taxes. Is there a "judicial precedent"? The following is my opinion:

Yes, there is a "judicial precedent", or at least nearest to it. The leader of the California-based "Your Heritage Protection Association" was arrested and convicted of mail and tax fraud in the early 1980s. Armen Condo, the leader of the Association "taught followers how to file papers claiming they were exempt from income taxes and urged them to pay a portion of those taxes to his organization as dues." Condo collected around $2 million before he was arrested. How much Rose collected out of the sale of his books and videos can be determined by requesting the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum to produce in court his business and financial records.

Rose’s and Condo’s deceptions to defraud are similar. The victims are made to believe that they were exempt from paying income taxes when in fact they were not. Both used the mail for their scam, and both profited from their scheme to deceive.

A citizen like Suka has to the right to know when Larken Rose’s anti-tax books, writings and videos that teach how to evade taxes went public.

Comment by: Suka
   Entered on: 2012-05-16 12:06:16

Is he also liable if by selling his books and videos attacking the Government and the IRS for throwing him in jail and made a profit out of it, and a tax evader violates the IRC claiming that he only followed Larken Rose's written instructions not to pay his taxes? By analogy, my guts tell me that he could be re-arrested as a tax felon, depending on the prevailing circumstances as to how the violation was committed.  Maybe there is already a judicial precedent to that effect.

Comment by: Kodigo
   Entered on: 2012-05-16 08:00:27

I just came back to town from a long trip and the first commentary I noticed in Freedom Forum is this pro bono legal advice from Brag. This rekindles my interest, recalling my earlier practice of law when as a young lawyer I used to advise community organizations on matters concerning civil and criminal issues that affect their personal lives.

What I can add is that anyone actively promoting Larken Rose’s criminal mind to commit murder and a murder is committed, you could either be implicated as a co-principal, accomplice or accessory to the crime.

With regards to the danger Brag cited coming from mentally disturbed terrorists and their sympathizers, I am sure the FBI Watch List is getting longer every day when new names are added, which could probably include those who actively promote Larken Rose’s books or writings on how to commit murder [how and when to kill a government agent and/or shoot a cop dead!]. You should be prepared when they come and get you.

Don’t thank me. Thank Brag.

Comment by: panocha
   Entered on: 2012-05-14 14:51:16

 You are right Brag. I am no longer interested to contribute comments unless this thrash is removed. Look at his irresponsibler comments. Is he retarded? He is either underage [juvenile delinquent] or a scatterbrain. I cannot make anything rational out of what he is talking about.  And this is the guy want to arrange a date with me? Scary ...

Comment by: Boston Releigh
   Entered on: 2012-05-14 14:38:32

 C'mon, PureTrust ... please get yourself an education before you argue with me. Why? Because you are useless, and you are occupying space which normal people can use to make comments useful to the public.

Comment by: PureTrust
   Entered on: 2012-05-14 10:00:38

Won't work, brag. Government may assassinate Larken Rose. But they will never get him legally. Know why? Because he figured them out, that's why. He figured out that Government doesn't have a legal hold on anyone who doesn't agree to an agreement with Government.

They might kidnap him. They might do a SWAT murder like they did with Jose Guerena. But they will never get him to agree with them to enter their court jurisdiction again, except if he wants to, of course.

Mr. Rose has learned. He has become way too smart for them. The only way they will ever get him is if they break their own laws and assassinate him. And that really isn't much - Government breaking their own laws. They do it all the time.

Comment by: brag
   Entered on: 2012-05-14 07:25:49

 

This intervention may either be considered as a legal advice or a warning.  You are free to do whatever you want.

 

 Larken Rose may be arrested sooner than later either as an “accomplice” or “accessory” in the commission of a felony or a crime. Persuading or inducing anyone to “kill government officials or agents, and to shoot cops dead” through writings and videos he is selling for profit, could make him a principal in a conspiracy to commit murder.

 

In a subversive material Rose published and distributed in a video “When Should You Shoot A Cop, he specifically declared: “I said, more bluntly than many ‘gun rights’ folks do, that I want you, the public, to have the ability to kill government agents, both military and police.” This criminal statement is an inducement or “encouragement” of the “principal in the first degree” in the commission of crime. [LaFave & Scott, Criminal Law 569, and 571 2d. ed.]

 

“The PRINCIPAL IN THE FIRST DEGREE is ‘one who with the requisite mental state, engages in the act’ in committing murder. In criminal law, what this means is that if anyone kills claiming that Larken Rose had talked to him to do the act, or he did it because in Rose’s videos and published writings he was “induced” or “encouraged” to kill a government agent or shoot a cop believing that under Rose’s advice it was the right thing to do, both of them can be indicted as principals in a conspiracy to commit murder.

 

On the other hand, if Rose as an “adviser” is present while promoting the sale of his videos and published materials when the felony or crime is committed, with “requisite mental state, engages in the act”, and becomes a Principal in both first and second degrees.”

 

“The PRINCIPAL IN THE SECOND DEGREE is one who is actually or constructively present at the commission of a criminal offense, and who …encourages the principal in the first degree in the commission of that offense …” [See id. at 571.]

 

And here is the bottom line [the dispositive portion or the crux of the matter in this advisory legal information: Anyone who approves, agrees, endorses, aids and abets Larken Rose’s participatory mental state to commit murder of which as a result a murder is committed, may be rounded up by the FBI, police or agents of the law any time of the day, to accompany Rose to jail either as accessory to the commission of the crime or as an accomplice.

 

In the criminal statute book, “An accessory does acts which facilitate others in the commission or attempted commission of crime[s]  …” [that is some of you endorsing strongly Rose’s lunacy to commit murder]. An accomplice is one who “shared a common mens rea [like some of you do, sharing Rose’s criminal intent not just with approval but standing ovation] and criminal purpose between agent and principal.” [478 S.W. 2d 450, 451; 473 S.W 2d 19, 20.]

 

Just helping you out to know the consequences of what you are doing. Some of your written comments unknowingly implicate yourself when you endorsed Rose’s “encouragement” to commit murder [kill government agents and shoot cops dead] and as a result, a loony acts and kills. You have to know what you are doing because when push comes to a shove, ignorance of the law excuses no one.

 

[This is a pro bono legal assistance coming from a grateful attorney – a free public service feature offering to this website and/or a gesture of approval of FP.com’s role as a courageous outlet of diverse public opinions.]

 

 

Comment by:
   Entered on: 2012-05-13 12:21:04

 I even dread to look at his picture reported to have resembled that of Abraham Lincoln's assassin.

Comment by: Ufactdirt
   Entered on: 2012-05-13 12:14:03

 This is an amazing reportorial essay, Annonymous75. You hit the nail in the head when for the safety and protection of the public, Larken Rose is exposed as a dangerous loony no different from Jack the Ripper, Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber, Charles Manson and Jared Loughner – all severely disturbed individuals who had killed due to "mental illness".

Rose surpassed them all because those psychopaths were at least honest about their taxes and had not cheated the IRS. At least they paid their taxes to the Government, unlike Rose who even cheated the Government of taxes that were due, and in fact stole them and for some time, used them to feed himself and his family.

Unlike Rose, those psychopathic assassins did not persuade Americans to kill government officials, did not induce the public to shoot all cops dead! Rose did, which makes him more dangerous than those psychopaths who left their indelible savagery in cold blood. Annonymous75 had previously warned: Beware! Be on guard always.

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