FREEDOM FORUM: Discussion

Make a Comment

Comments in Response


Comment by Joseph Vanderville
Entered on:

This couple is so dumb stupid to continue what they have been doing when they knew that what they are doing is against the Arizona law. Their home has already been raided, and still they persisted in doing what they were not supposed to do. They should have been away PERMANENTLY.

 

This story was written by a nincompoop named Michael Snyder of “The American Dream” who was raving mad against what Arizona was doing to this dumb stupid couple. He too should have been put away by the police for good as a dangerous enemy of the State of Arizona.

 

 


Comment by Richard Harding
Entered on:

I wonder why this website allows a story like this to harness sympathy on the erring couple who clearly deserved their arrest and jail sentence. It is clear to me that the purpose of the editors is to promote hatred towards the State of Arizona for doing what is right. It now appears to me that this website is run by editors from the dark side.

 

Comment by Suka
Entered on:

 He loves state-bashing. Stupid Cupid.


Comment by Gremlin
Entered on:

What an evil man.

He should have known better that worship is for crazy cultist and we got tanks and gas for the children to rectify this. You dont own anything, and the state "LETS" you enjoy the freedoms you think you have so you dont crush your own skull in the stall in front of you. Your cross is a satanic symbol of death and destruction and the pulpit is just a god for saken eye sore. Damnit, there is a reason why we have 501C3 status in this country. Its so kooks like your evil baby kicking ass doesnt get out of line. Love the state, its for your safety. 

 

 


Comment by McElchap
Entered on:

 Apparently, some FP readers don't see a problem with denying First Amendment rights to Christians (or others), judging by comments preceding this one. Freedom to peaceably assemble, freedom of worship, freedom of conscience and freedom of expression apparently mean little to those who apparently come here for no other reason than to attack liberty and promote a fascist agenda. People should be able to invite others into their homes, for worshipping God or football. Live free or die trying! 


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Senator Scott Bundgaard had some great material about this that last year I had forwarded to Shelton and instead of seeing fit to make good use of it for the community, Shelton shows his true agenda, and suddenly Scott has a situation on his hands that is so obviously mafia style ridding of a person for the community and not for the global mafia drugtrade.  For more information, read first commentary on the day late dollar short- Nazi checkpoints- CIA drug trafficking.  Shelton has known about this for quite some time.  In fact he knows a LOT from our relationship and my late father having been involved and knowing some things.  He continually waits until everyone pretty much knows things and just tries to state after the fact that "We [translates to I] need money"... We do so much to get the truth out...  Well... He is about your wallet.  Not about getting the truth out there.  Try asking him what 4409 really means.  And get roadblocked because the guy has secrets.  BIG ONES.  I'll leave you to figure that out.


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Another FACT:  We are in Maritime Law people!  Look at the Flag in your courtroom!  That means that your constitution does not apply.  Why do people perpetuate the lie here?  To help those "with them" make us believe that the constitution applies to all of us when it only applies to them as the biggest secret???


Comment by Joseph Vanderville
Entered on:

DUMB AND STUPID COMMENT …

Comment) defending the arrested dumb stupid couple that their arrest is a violation of the constitutional right to peaceably assemble is as dumb and stupid.

In spite of previous police raid for violating the law, these dumb stupid couple persisted and continued to hold a home assembly claiming study of the Bible as the reason for the prohibited gathering.

States like Arizona HAVE the right to pass their own version of anti-terrorism laws that suit local need for the safety and protection of their own citizens as their particular situations require. One of those anti-terrorism laws prohibits the gathering of certain number of people in a private place [including home or what terrorists consider a "safe house"] allegedly to discuss "private" matters.

In this case, the discussion of the Bible is claimed to be the REASON for such prohibited gathering! Well, you can tell that to the Marines … not to Arizona’s police officers that under the law have a job to do [to arrest those that violate the law].

You cannot fool the Arizona law enforcers this way. If you insist on violating the law by acting like a juvenile delinquent -- like what this dumb stupid couple do – they will come and get you … handcuffed you and threw you in jail.

Now, for the education of the ignoramus who posted such dumb and stupid pro-terrorist comment: Assuming that the one who posted Comment) is a terrorist himself, he has to go to the court of law and legally attack Arizona’s anti-terrorist law as "unconstitutional", instead of waste his saliva in grumbling that the dumb stupid couple’s arrest was a violation of the Constitution to peaceably assemble. Anti-State dogs barking at the wrong tree are dangerous.

Besides, it pissed-off people. This dumb stupid comment of an ignorant terrorist or terrorist sympathizer is so irritating … it makes you feel sick!


Comment by AntiAcidNo1
Entered on:

I insist in saying that anti-State editors that want sympathy to law violators and at the same time want the public to hate the State of Arizona and its law enforcers for enforcing the law have their clandestine mission accomplished after they published this article. They seemed unable to recognize the fact that the handcuffed couple was repeatedly violating the law … either that or the editors are in self-denial, just to whip up hatred against the State of Arizona.

Isn’t that obvious?

 

Comment by McElchap
Entered on:

Vanderville is quite obviously a troll with no respect for our Bill of Rights, God or mankind. I wish we knew who pays him to put his fascist feces in our faces.  I recommend that he get a hot lead enema to clear his anal retentive head about those statist dreams of jack-booted grandeur.


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Kudos McElchap.  Email me at Kimpanelli1007@gmail.com  I am looking for the informed who care and want to get involved.  I have funding.

 JV has been abusive ever since the beginning, and yes, he is a fascist Jew Nazi (fraud that controls most religions through mafia bloodlines that the Mormon church keeps very careful track of.  "familial emphasis" is MAFIA Japanese style "corporatism"....  keep the slaves working until their parts wear out.  They want to be the Book of Mathew "Birds of God" nesting in the Shade, Mormons ritualize this in their temples as the oppulent room at the end...  The celestial room... Ha.  A cabbalist creation, but they keep the women asleep because they don't really believe in this crap.  Their religion is that White MAN is God (Good orderly directly of the Freemason Jesuit Enterprise-Banking cults that have 'privileges' behind the scenes that their wives would be very interested to know about....

 Ever read about sex slavery?  Nazi mind control Monarch programming?  Masons love this crap...  But the women are waking up,... and it freaks these men out because they know about the collective consciousness... and are afraid of us!  LOL.    Mormons ritualize cabbalist style RACKETEERING global Royal bloodline network!   Only knowlege allowed to the highest of their mafia initiates. 

Remember:  Who shot Kennedy, who passed 1961 RICO ACT, when Sinclair family of Rosslyn Chapel Scottland, in Roslin Scottland:   Spelling different for a very good reason:  Break the code of Yiddish phonics abuse in our neurolinguistic programming...  Sinclair oil miraculously given an offer they couldn't refuse apparently and sold to Rockefeller dominated Standard oil. 

 

 

 

 


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

comment below made by Kim Dyer Tempe, Arizona, as Site handler edits my writings out.  


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

But McElchap, did you read:  Research what the gold on our flag means.  The elite WANT you to believe that our constitutionapplies whenit doesn't so that they can take advantage of within the RICO network, while leaving those "against them" under the other untold jurisdiction. 

Mormon Karla of the Breakfast Club is another con infiltrator.  She attends the Republic For Arizona and wormed her way into the governorship and now they are having problems, big time.  She feeds the lie hoping to be at the top of the Zionist global bloodline mafia network.  She is another sell out.

When I saw that Ted Turner's group put her in the governorship after we all did a workshop answering questionnaires with our names on them, it became extremely obvious that the group is trying to legalize all of their property into a third party's hands for more control of the dissidents!  LOL.  They don't realize it, but what they are doing is going to bite them in the ass and they better get right with it~!

Kim Dyer  Tempe Arizona

There are forces that can't be "seen" but they are at work!  xoxo  The answer is in unity.  Not in religious gangs and infighting.  We already all know what is true inside and the dogma and creed doesn't matter so much unless we buy into the scam... of the ruling elite patriarchy.  I suggest watching Jordan Maxwell... for a lesson on how the initiates, the initiators and the "others" fit together.  Study the Mustard seed parables of Matthew Mark Luke and then the Q factor.  Freemasons know that this is the Mormon three teir system of elitism that feeds off of the innocent.  There is the wood (family trees-geneology) the birds of "heaven" that nest in the branches and the birds of "heaven" thatnest IN THE SHADE.


Comment by Suka
Entered on:

Guys, please straighten out your crooked mind and twisted way of thinking. Didn’t this Phoenix couple violate the law of Arizona that was why they were arrested, stayed "60 days in prison" and paid $12,180 fine? What in hell are you talking about … what Bill of Rights were violated when the couple was arrested after breaking the law of Arizona?

I think it is better for you to just shut up until you learn how to argue sensibly or at least until you learn how to make a sane comment. You distract focus in the discussions of important issues being debated here.

You are incapable of discussing issues with sense, duds … you have a filthy mouth that’s why you are only good in what you know best -- dirty name-calling. You can spit out dirt with ease, but you have a hard time speaking out a normal mind when you interfere with normal people discussing critical issues on this page.

Suggestion to Ernest Hancock – Let us reserve this space for a better use to benefit our reading public. This problem is happening again … this hallucinating Bimbo is back occupying spaces we need. She is so disconnected when she rumbles, repeating, and repeating her neurotic bitterness … the same denunciations and harangues of bad people she imagined, in one, two, three or more comments posted on top of one another -- an abuse of space… a total waste of space.

Better still, create a special space only for the exclusively use of McElchap, Kim Dry and PureTrust. After all, when these three cuckoos make their comments, only the three of them understand each other!

This is not a make-up – no offense intended. Nothing personal … just read their comments and find out for yourself.

 

Comment by PureTrust
Entered on:

While home Bible study is backed by the 1st Amendment, breaking agreements is not! When these folks signed up for their local housing area, they agreed to abide by the rules. They could have gone elsewhere for their Bible study... elsewhere where they would not be breaking code and agreements.

Now, this whole thing is a fine-line thing. Unless we have all the nitty-gritty details, it's hard to make a right judgment.

The point is. God doesn't want you making agreements that limit the spreading of his Word. But if you do, He doesn't want you breaking the agreements, especially when there are other options.


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Why the Jewish elite banking cabals that control us through religion give scholarships to Jewish elite to be overrepresented in the legal aspects of Home owners associations and crooked construction practices.  Remember Gotti and Sammy the Bull?  Construction is where our crooked city funding is misappropriated to Mafia gangsters controlling construction, labor unions, you name it.  They control it all because they are whores for the vatican.  The mafia banking cults, masonic banking cult included such as Mormon church, a mafia business.  Hollywood gives half truths, laced with disinformation to throw you off and keep you chasing your tail... 


Comment by PureTrust
Entered on:

When you decide to move into a house, there are several things that you look for. If you want two full baths, you don't look at the ones that have only 1 bath. If you are looking for a price range between $200,000 and $300,000, you don't really consider the ones that are $500,000.

If there is something wrong with the house or the area or the home owners association, don't go there. But if you DO go there, and if you make an agreement to abide by the rules, then follow through with your agreement. Otherwise, move out. You aren't giving God any credit by breaking your agreements.

Again, we need to know the details of this case to make a right judgment.


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Donna, you and your mafia ARE NOT GOD.  Not like you'd like it to be.  YOU WORK FOR THE JESUITS!  YOU ARE WHORES FOR THE VATICAN BANKING CARTELS!  You have a monopoly on what is written into these plans that no one reads.  Give me a break!  And stop insulting our intelligence please.  Kim Dyer Tempe Arizona.  We are not THAT stupid.  Give the goyim some credit.... by the way, how do you define the goyim according to your Torah emphasis in belief systems?  I am curious to know.  I know that the New Testament is for the New Age of Pisces, and we are in an even Newer dawning headed for Aquarious (why the Vatican has a telescope for astronomy in Tucson I hear?...  Do tell.  How do you view the goyim according to YOUR "GOD"...  Which I suspect is the deceitful Jewish-Vatican controlled order of Freemasonry...  ?  ~Makers of false religion and social divide.  We don't need a book and a ruler at the pulpit to find truth in who and What GOD is to our soul... Is that not what even the bible says is Jesus' teachings?  But aren't you really a Torah follower who uses both books in their duplicity to make your point?


Comment by PureTrust
Entered on:

Can yo actually tell who it is talking to your soul, whether it is God or the devil? You need the Book to compare the things you hear to, just to determine if it is God or the devil.


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

You are scary Donna.  The arrogance of you actually believing that the "Jews" are God.  So what I witnessed last summer was a lie.  That your group was subverting Ron Paul and secretly pushing for  Romney.  And you manipulate using words like devil, and demonize people.  That is why so many people get turned off by religion, the duplicity that Jews annointed by the Vatican and Freemasonry, one in the same deceive for money and the book almost seems written to scare believers into falling into the meat grinder prepared for them.  All I know is I love the teachings of Jesus, but as depressing as it is, a lot of people are pointing to the Jews as making the concept up for money and social control, and religion is social control.  People are manipulated by emotions and self will so...  The world is a pretty scary place when you see reality.  Most preachers KNOW THIS from what I understand.  I am still scratching my head. 

It is hard for me to fathom the absolute evil behind the current hierarchy of men running the world religions, married to the evil:  The Banks.  This was all planned out and is carried out by the Jesuit and Freemasons (Masonic religions created by Man Gods like Joseph Smith).  Time to wake up.  Before we let the current evil put all of the Christians through the meatgrinder.


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Basically what Donna Hancock is selling you two comments below is that you need the book to know if it is the devil speaking to you or not.  That is metaphorical for "lived" backwards.  Code for, comply with the worlds oldest leaving breathing mafia of religion, or don't live your life.  Is that what you mean, Donna?  That mafia Jews are God?  Through Vatican and Masonic fronts for deliberate creation of false religion?  Very  manipulative you know.  And you and Ernie certainly look and act Jewish and certainly do lie and deceive... So... hope the others don't get as close as I did and tr to pet that porcupine!  Depressing world.  But hopefully Revelation 22:16 will happen and people will get it before they go half cocked on their neighbors!  I'd be nervous being a self-proclaimed "Jew" right now because people are waking up to the con, just as the book of Revelation knew would happen.

 Moon turning to blood means that light will shine onto the dark as to who the mafia bloodlines (why Mormons are really into geneology) that call themselves God metaphorically.  The books of Matthew Mark and Luke demonstrate the three tiered caste system in their mustard seed parables.  There is the [family] tree, the birds of heaven that nest in the branches, and the birds of heaven that nest in the shade [hidden].  That is the triune use of cabbalist belief demonstrated in the star of David, the triune God and the pyramid.  Architecturally correct and the most sound structure.  Sacred Geometry is their true religion, in hiding.  Thus how stonemasonry morphed into Freemasonry, the joke that it is today to all of us and its underlings kept in the dark to make rich men richer.


Comment by Suka
Entered on:

He was not arrested "for hosting a home bible study", stupid. He was arrested for violating "building, zoning, fire and safety codes of Phoenix, Arizona that were applicable to Churches", ding-dong.

 


Comment by Anonymous
Entered on:

Once again, Ernie and his lackeys edit out my name or identification as Kim Dyer below...  They have something to hide!  Obviously.  And the "code" facilitates organized crime.  I could write a book about it.  Sometimes I think that these comments are phantom personalities to get people to think.   Laws are written by government to be impossible to be within compliance for social control.  It allows for selective enforcement for those "against them"...  Notice Beauty and the Beast had George Bush's famous saying in it well before 9/11?  The system is designed for those who give a damn to figure it all out.  Just don't get in their way.  Most people have to be literal initiates to the knowledge.  Unfortunately, knowledge can be dangerous.

Make a Comment