At around 14 minutes into hour 2, Ernie mentions Larken Rose's video, The Tiny Dot. Ernie says they're preying on our goodness, obedience and etc. They're leveraging their twelve years of indoctrination. "What’s the difference between the government and the mafia? The mafia doesn’t have a twelve year indoctrination system to convince you it’s not organized crime." ~ Brett Veinotte."Government" public education/indoctrination is child abuse.