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TSA detains Sen. Rand Paul in Nashville

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Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul’s press secretary Moira Bagley tweeted on Monday that Transportation Security Administration officials were detaining her boss in Nashville, Tenn.

“Just got a call from @senrandpaul,” Bagley tweeted at about 10 a.m. on Monday. “He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.”

Texas Congressman and current Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul – Sen. Rand Paul’s father – placed a post on Facebook about the news as well. “My son Rand is currently being detained by the TSA at the Nashville Airport,” Ron Paul posted. “I’ll share more details as the situation unfolds.”

Ron Paul adds, via Twitter, that the TSA detained his son “for refusing full body pat-down after anomaly in body scanner.”

 

21 Comments in Response to

Comment by Ufactdirt
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 I can't stand garbage either.

Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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To VT, if you listen to how the likes of these guys PT and James OO-17 argue, as if you are riding a rocket to Pluto in the dark void of space! In the argument, where the hell are they going? I can’t stand scatterbrain.

Comment by Venancio Tan
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Since you are the only one who thinks you are James Bond in your dream fighting the Government, you will be in Guantanamo Camp before you can start your R3volution. There they give you a water treatment called "waterboarding", to cool you off your rack. You will wake up to this reality sooner or later, I assure you.

Perhaps you read too much of Miguel de Cervantes’ Don Quixote of La Mancha that attacked the windmill because in his dream he thought that the wind-blown mill is the Government that brings evil to society! You are an incensed government-attacker more angry than Rambo in the movie who boomed-boomed evil with his rage.

By the way, the ten million guns Americans have that you mentioned, are for shooting squirrels and gophers in the yard, and occasionally for self-defense against out of control loonies aside from criminals who might rob you or invade your home. Only you use those guns to kill the Government.

You must wake up to reality that loonies can’t kill the Government or the State for that matter before they carry out or execute their terrorist plot or before they whisked them to a mental asylum.

 
Comment by PureTrust
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Good point, James17.

Before law enforcement people were law enforcement people, what were they? Well, initially they were babies, they grew into children, and then adults. All of their knowledge about law enforcement came through training when they were young people, young adults or older. If they can learn it, so can everybody else, right?

If the Government was sincere about trying to prevent terrorism, what they would do is make all of the American people into law enforcement. They would train every adult American, and then arm him/her, every American, with the deadliest assault weapons around... and plenty of ammo, to boot. Then what terrorist would dare to attack? And a side benefit would be that crime would drop down to right around "0."

The only reason that government doesn't do this is, government is the terrorist. They are trying to enslave us all. They are the ones who are trying to enslave the whole world with a one-world dictatorship. Most of our U.S. Senators are at least in agreement with the one-world idea.

Comment by James17
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 Over 10,800,000 Guns Sold in the USA in 2011. When I viewed the chart showing the increase in gun sells over the past decade, that is the highest amount of guns sold and increasing yearly. Why this about something concerning Rand Paul? Because it shows that there are people out there that know something wrong is happening to this country and that they are not going to find themselves without protection when that final blow comes. This is an election year if that has anything to do with what is intended to befall this United States and the rest of the world. It could go either way. All hell breaks loose and Obama stays in office because there is not going to be another election, or that SHTF waits until after the next president takes office. Those people that want to control the globe and all of everything on it are getting restless and wanting to get on with their total takeover. All hell breaking loose and that SHTF will not be easy for anyone, but let's get on with it so that we can either get this world turned around or see the end of all things.

Comment by James17
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 Venancio Tan (#43831) - Fart to get your head out of your ass. - No, on second thought, just leave it there and leave the rest of us to our understanding that we are in trouble in this United States and that the worst is yet to come.

Comment by Venancio Tan
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Let me tell you how I helped my 7-year-grandson understand what airport security screening is all about.

When we passed the security check up and waited to board the aircraft, my curious SEVEN year-old grandson asked me if there was also a security screening in the airport before when I was his age. I said long, long time ago, there was NONE. He asked again why there is a security screening now. I told him that before, there was no 911. He knew what 911 was.

My grandson now understands why all airline passengers must undergo X-ray of hand-carries, and why they MUST go through security screening before boarding the aircraft.

You see, a 7-year-old boy needs this explanation. And so are adults -- including a Senator from Nashville -- with the mind of a 7-year-old child.

In other words, I am trying to help you understand why there is a security screening in the airpot.

Comment by PureTrust
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I repeat, the only thing Government should be doing is to vigorously train the people. All the laws, except for the law of repayment for harm caused or damages done, should be stern warning "laws" only. These warnings should be vigorously embedded, by Government, into the minds of the people, so that nobody has an excuse when they mess up, and so that Government is not negligent in its duty.

Anything other than the above reduces freedom for the people, and creates a lecherous, bloated Government that steals from the people.

Comment by PureTrust
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What is the REAL law that covers all other laws, and brings both justice and tranquility? Isn't it "eye for eye, and tooth for tooth..." etc.?

All the laws do not stop anyone from exercising his freedom. If they did, there would be no crime, right? I mean, all the 65 mph speed limit laws and signs out on the highway don't stop anyone from driving faster than 85 mph. Isn't it the fear of the consequences that might make some folks slow down?

The laws do 3 things. They suggest that there will be consequences for breaking the laws. And they line the pockets of law enforcement and Government officials. The third thing is that the laws do is, they attempt to steal the freedoms from the people.

You only need ONE law - eye for eye, tooth for tooth, etc..

The only thing government should be doing is to vigorously train the people that, things like driving faster than the posted speed limits will probably result in accidents. And if you survive the accident you cause, you will be treated with the same punishment that you gave to the person who did not survive your accident - execution.

With this kind of law-thinking in mind, there will be freedom. People who can drive faster safely will be allowed to do so. People who can't will be removed from the highways by their own stupid actions. The results will ultimately be similar to those produced by all the laws that are in place today. The differences will be freedom, and that the size of Government will be reduced, as will the number of Government leaches who prey upon the people.

And this type of thinking works for virtually all the laws that attempt to limit the freedom of the people.

Comment by PureTrust
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You guys have a really screwed-up idea of freedom. To voluntarily submit to security screening when for decades none was needed, and when none is needed now, is to voluntarily throw away your freedom altogether.

What is needed is for people to check into the facts behind 9/11, the cause of the TSA and Homeland Security, to see that there are so extremely many unanswered questions, that the whole thing should be investigated, in depth, with a fine-toothed comb, just the way every other air-crash in aviation history has been investigated, but in the ways that 9/11 was NOT investigated.

Rather, Government would sweep the whole thing under the rug, thereby expressing that they know that there formal explanation of 9/11 is a total fabrication, a BIG FAT LIE!!!

Comment by Kalantiaw
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VT, I would not waste my time helping "freedom freaks". It is clear from the way they argue, that you are dealing with a bunch of loopy philosophers. The poetic comment below about freedom is a fantastic coincidence!

In my news reporting days, I once covered the case of a motorist who hated traffic rules. He lost his driver’s license for violating traffic rules as a recidivist. He believed that submitting to those traffic rules is a forfeiture of his freedom. He droved his son’s car, refused to obey traffic lights, and ran a red light. He left an epitaph that he himself wrote long before he died. It reads:

"No rules …

"I dared when you are scared … No balls!

"Without freedom, a free man falls."

He was a "creepy" retired professor of Philosophy and Letters in a University where I studied Journalism before I became a lawyer.

VT, if I were you, I won’t waste my time.

Comment by Venancio Tan
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You guys have really a screwed up concept of freedom. To submit yourself to a security check in the airport like the rest of airline passengers is NOT a loss of your freedom. Only nuts think that way.

In fact the purpose of security screening in the airport is to secure your freedom to live. When security check is conducted, only terrorists lose their "freedom" to board the aircraft and blow it to smithereens! You must be totally retarded not to understand this!

Follow your detained "idol" terrorist coddler Sen. Rand Paul who violated security rules in the airport, and to the calaboose you go. Don’t debate with me foolishly. Just do it – refuse a security check in the airport. Tell TSA it is your "freedom" to be free from following security procedures. Call me from your detention cell if you need the help of a lawyer. For the protection and security of airline travelers, I will see to it that you get a life term in prison. It is not only that you deserve it -- you need it to protect you, from yourself.

Comment by doc-S
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Its all by design and you bought into it hook line and sinker. Hmmm, does Iron Mountain I&II ring any bells???

No man wins when freedom fails,

The best men rot in filthy jails,

While those who cried "Appease, appease",

Are hanged by those they sought to please.

 

 

Comment by Wild Will
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 @VT  Do you really think a sitting US Senator (not state) should be arrested and thrown in prison for defending the Constitution against arbitrary laws written by unelected bureaucrats?? As for the rest of your post, it's proof positive that you inhabit 'Bizzaro World', I guess the 'Pauls' make you kinda nervous. GOOD

Comment by PureTrust
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No, not that VT comment. The one at the bottom.

Comment by PureTrust
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Wow! I guess I need to be a lot more careful. I had always thought that VT was simply an American with points of view similar to many other Americans. I had thought that he (she/it) was simply a person who was trusting that the things that law enforcement were doing, were basically done by them with the best intentions. But it turns out that I was wrong!

It is easy to see how TSA people could accidentally go against the Constitution that they had sworn to uphold. After all, many people have never read the Constitution, or the court cases that show that Government people are free to travel while they are doing certain forms of Government business. This isn't the problem. The mix-up in the detainment of Senator Rand Paul is something that can and will be fixed.

But look at Venancio Tan's comment, below! It is like venomous, murderous, virtual assassination of one of America's most freedom-loving Government people!

What country is this VT anti-American from? Even Russian Commies aren't this forward against U.S. freedom ideals!

We need to be very careful. VT shows us that many of the people who act like freedom-loving Americans, are really entirely against freedom. In this instance, did VT simply slip up? Or does he (she/it) really think that Americans are against freedom and their own laws enough that his (her/its) encouragement will give strength to Americans to throw away the little remaining freedom and law that they have?

Get to know your friends well, so that you can be sure that they are not really there to destroy America and freedom.

Comment by Venancio Tan
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doc-S (#10005), know the issue – why the Senator is being "detained" in the airport. He refused to be bodily searched when the scanner "beeped". Then make a comment on it. Your blood and freedom scream is irrelevant.

Mr. JV has this good suggestion for you and your kind (see below): "So if reports like this make you very angry at what the TSA officers are doing in the airport to insure your safety in air travel, be sure you are not their cattle being herded to the slaughterhouse!"

But first, you must know what the issue is, before making any comment. This is a friendly, not a hostile, advice.

Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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I read this incident carefully. This is published to favor this radical Senator’s recalcitrance – actually insubordination and defiance – to security laws and regulations in boarding airliners in the airport.

Perhaps this State Senator believes that as a State Senator, he should be allowed to pass security check anytime he wishes, and should not be treated like any ordinary passenger being subjected to security bodily search.

We must be honest to ourselves and should be equally careful to prevent a slip of terrorists boarding the airline with us and do a repeat of that horrifying 911 carnage.

Remember carefully the security procedure required when we board the plane. Our experience in the airport security screening is that if the scanner "beeps" which means it "fails" to clear you, "something" is hidden or remained in your body that you did not remove and put in the container conveyance that passed through the X-ray machine. In this case, the security officers must pull you over and search you bodily. But this report says that the Senator refused to be bodily searched when the scanner failed. It was hinting that the scanner was faulty and TSA should be blamed for using a defective scanner on the Senator – a good publicity feed, to State haters to lambaste the Government and invite the attention of the Media.

You can see the pattern the enemy of the State uses – twisting the facts to blindside the innocent public.

So if reports like this make you very angry at what the TSA officers are doing in the aiport to insure your safety in air travel, be sure that you are not their cattle being herded to the slaughterhouse!

 
Comment by doc-S
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 You can always tell the people who HAVEN'T fought for freedom. Venancio I suggest you stand a post, get on the front lines somewhere, hear the screams, see the blood, experience the Hell. Once you do you won't be able to write a post like that.

Doc Sutter - Combat Medic

Comment by Dennis Treybil
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From Article I Section 6 of the Constitution for the United States of America:

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

I gather the Congress is in session based on Ron Paul's visit to Washington last week to vote on the debt ceiling . . .

Maybe the TSA has really stepped in it this time.  SCOTUS just ruled unanimously against warrantless GPS checks - maybe they'll rule properly in this case if it is pursued.

DC Treybil

Comment by Venancio Tan
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He should not only be detained but thrown to jail for the safety of all airline passengers!

My urgent message to TSA in Nashville: Don’t allow this Senator terrorist coddler to board the plane if he continues to refuse a body search like the rest of the passengers who submitted themselves to search for security purposes. The scanner shows that he must be bodily searched. If he dosn’t want to be searched, the passengers that have been scanned and bodily searched shouldn’t board the plane with him for their safety.

This Nashville Senator and his father Congressman Ron Paul are terrorist CODDLERS. Like the terrorists about to board an airline, they are AGAINST TSA security checks. Both of them are bad examples to airline passengers, for defying security measures in the airport.

This radical State Senator said on June 2011 that this random body search in the airport is a "universality of insult". He wanted TSA to stop it.

Now this Senator’s pro-terrorists stunt, like his father’s, is being put to test. TSA officials think they are dealing with "nuts", and good they do not back down. Good so far, and may the force be with them. They should neither falter nor wink, in carrying their duty to protect the traveling public.

For the safety of all the other travelers, Sen. Rand Paul should not be allowed to travel by air without passing the airport’s security search; he must be thrown to jail for violating national security laws. The aggravating circumstances of being a Senator, must double the penalty of the jail sentence he must served.

His father Ron Paul is virtually a "protector" of Al Qaeda terrorists. On record, he blamed we the Americans – not the terrorists – for that 911 carnage – meaning that the terrorists have no fault at all. According to his public statement, 911 is our fault, not that of the Al Qaeda terrorists. Ron Paul aped Osama bin Laden’s statement defending his religious assassins in perpetrating the 911 carnage, publicized right after 911.

Since terrorists do not want to be bodily searched in the airport, Ron Paul, like his son Sen. Rand Paul who doesn’t want to undergo a bodily search for the security of all passengers, should not only be detained but imprisoned for violating national security laws.

He should be punished more for the attendant aggravating circumstances as a high official of the Government he served, and who, instead of being a model to all citizens in following the law, violates the law.

For our own protection against terrorism, we do not need this kind of officials "from the lunatic fringe", to borrow the words of a NH newspaper.

I hope that for your survival, you are not deceived but guided in understanding this incident, accordingly. In this website, it is clearly being used to hate the Government, and to promote anti-Government candidate Ron Paul’s current attempt to win the GOP nomination for president.

 


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