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ATF Knocking at your door?...Yes

Written by Subject: Gun Rights
The credibility of this info is elevated due to a friend that has had his company truck tracked and photographed by the FBI because an employee purchased 10,000 rounds of ammo at a Gun Show. They want interview, but not with lawyer.

ATF Knocking at your door?...Yes
 
Hoff



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PostPosted: Thu May 07,    Post subject: ATF Knocking at your door...YesReply with quote

I just received this email from a friend. He is a well respected, hard working Texan/American:

BRIAN, JUST HAD 2 ATF OFFICERS LEAVE MY HOUSE WANTING TO SEARCH MY GUN SAFE AND TAKE DOWN SERIAL NUMBERS DUE TO THE FACT I HAVE PURCHASED A LOT OF GUNS LATELY. NICE GUYS AND YOU KNOW I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT APPARENTLY THE NEW ADMINISTRATION IS SENDING ATF OFFICERS TO TEXAS TO CURTAIL GUN PURCHASES THINKING THAT THERE A BUNCH OF FOLKS HERE IN TEXAS SUPPLYING THE SORRY, NO GOOD, LOW LIFE DRUG LORDS OF MEXICO. THESE OFFICERS CONDUCTED THEIR SELVES FIRST CLASS BUT I DENIED THEM TO LOOK AT MY WEAPONS. I DID NOT THINK I WOULD LIVE TO SEE THIS DAY COME BUT HERE IT IS. THE TWO OFFICERS WERE FROM COLORADO AND NEW YORK, HERE TO HELP OUT TEXAS ATF. NOTHING AGAINST THE OFFICERS BUT MY OPINION IS THAT THIS IS AN OBAMA POLITICAL MOVEMENT. A STARTLING DAY FOR ME AND MY AMERICAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL BELIEFS. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THAT INFO WITH YOU. -REGARDS

This does not surprise me at all. If you have listened to the spin form the Obama administration they have been blaming the Mexican Drug violence on American guns. The will vilify the American Gun Owner just as they labeled those who attended all the Tea Parties as "Racist Radicals" even though that is the farthest thing from the truth. It is a shame that patriotic Americans will be spun as villains to achieve a political agenda which seems to be much more than just big government. Its looking more like totalitarian socialism is more goal. If we are not careful “For the people by the people” will become unknown history as it will not be tolerated in the books by a government who re-writes history as “For the Government by the Government”
Once we lose the first amendment (Freedom of speech), we then will lose the 2nd amendment (Right to own and bare arms) then we have lost our country and it will be too late to save it.

What do YOU have to say? Please post your comments
Hoff
 

9 Comments in Response to

Comment by MERRILL Ha
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Here we have it folks smart , advice never under any circumstances let yourself to allow these thugs to intimidate you.  If they corner you, ask if you are free to leave ,or if you are being Detained At this point under the constitutional rights they have to either detain you or let you leave.
If they show up wanting to see in your gun safe? SAY NO get a warrant, have a nice day.
NEVER allow them to trick you into consenting. Remember folks it is your right to {refuse a search} and their not required to inform you of your right.
They are also allowed to{ LIE} to you,  but do not lie to them.

just remain silent invoke 5th amendment and tell them you want to contact a lawyer invoking your 6th amendment right; this is the best chance you have against this illegal activity. NO WARRANT, NO SEARCH. end of discussion. These people are trained to intimidate you and will make up laws,  tell lies, and act like what do you have to hide? The answer to that is, I respect law enforcement but do not respect them violating my rights. Thanks,have a nice day sir and end the confrontation.  ITS not their business what you own or posses.

 

Comment by Michael Eck
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Nice guys...conducted themselves first class??????????

I could never use those lables for someone who ignored their oath of office as those tyrants did.

Comment by Doug Nusbaum
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To all republican conservatives reading this. You wanted a war on drugs. You wanted a war on terror: News Flash. One does not make war on things or ideas. Only an idiot would think otherwise One makes war on people, and the winner of those wars ALWAYS AND EVERY TIME, is government, and the losers are people.

So now you are reaping the inevitable results of your false anti-crime, unconstitutional enhancement of government power over peoples private actions.

Comment by Daniel Ki
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WOW that Steve dude (the one with the New York accent) with the FBI**Q**s Counter Terrorism Unit in Denver sure gets around these days!

He contacted me in March & said he had been ordered to question me - wanting to set up a meeting with me - for his claims that the FBI was concerned about all the AK-47 ammo that I sell & if skin-heads, Neo-Nazi**Q**s - or radical islamic characters might be contacting me???

What was really strange about this Denver FBI team member**Q**s assertions - was that he said he had a **Q**surprise**Q** for me - several times & even chuckled about it???

When I asked him what he meant by a **Q**surprise**Q** - he kept saying, **QQ**I**Q**ll tell you when I meet you...**QQ**

After hearing this & spurning the FBI task force**Q**s meeting offer - I contacted the NRA**Q**s - ILA lawyer referal for a Denver-based attorney & they gave me the name of an attorney in Denver - who told me UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should I meet with the FBI - unless they had charges for me - because this would not be in my best interests!

Strange how the attorney in Denver telling me this on my cellphone - seemed to end the contact from the FBI ???

Then later in March - an Orlando-based Government contractor kept asking me to help him & another party in the U.K. figure out how to import & cut-up 5,000 Soviet AKM rifles from the Ishvesk Arsenal in Russia made in 1966 - but now housed somewhere in the U.K. - and determine how to market them as **Q**Parts Kits**Q** in the U.S. - despite a U.S. treaty signed by Bill Clinton with the Russians in 1994 forbidding the import of ANY Russian military items & weapons parts into the U.S.!

This **Q**Rope-a-Dope**Q** plan by the Feds even had the Defense Contractor offering to fly me to London with ALL EXPENSES PAID - hoping I was dumb enough not to realize that even offering consulting assistance to these clowns is a BIG FAT FELONY with the Feds - like the indicted Ralph Merrill of now Defunct Vector Arms was indicted for - in his deal with that punk-azz Miami Beach kid, Efraim Diveroli & his DIY International & Ammo Works operations!

Now, I suddenly have a Georgia contractor who wants me to supply them with a bunch of AK parts for some unknown Government contract order?

Also last week an FFL that I supply AK ammo to - had BOTH the FBI & the ATF come into his shop TOGETHER - to ask vague questions about someone with a lot of ammo & assault weapons spouting off about the Government - as if they**Q**re trying to MAKE-A-CASE when they don**Q**t have anything for a criminal indictment???

I think I have a VERY WELL DOCUMENTED PATTERN of HARASSMENT developing here & the intimidation & character asassination by these Federal agents to convince others into giving them reasons to **Q**Patriot Act**Q** me - or something worse!

And at the least - but extremely detrimental to my standing in the Gun Show & Gun business - is to convince other retailers in the business to be fearful of doing business with me - due to STRANGE VISITS by the FBI & ATF - whom normally NEVER APPEAR TOGETHER asking incriminating questions around items I supply them with???

For now - just **Q**Buy Lots of Ammo While You Can**Q** !!!

Comment by Ed Vallejo
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This just received TODAY via e-mail:
Washington, D.C. March Date Announced

We have submitted the necessary paperwork to reserve April 19, 2010 as the march
date in Washington, D.C. We will provide updates on that process as they become
available.
More info HERE: http://tinyurl.com/pn45ng

Ed
(with a grin)

Comment by Charzhome S.
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The Revolution **Q**may**Q** be starting, see this article:

http://digg.com/politics/The_Return_to_Jekyll_Island_The_People_Strike_Back

Comment by Brandon Smith
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Why hasn**Q**t the 2nd American Revolution gone into full swing yet?! I hope it**Q**s because people are waiting for July 4th, or maybe too many people are scared, or too full of Apathy. The longer the Patriots wait the more rules/regulations and media they have to use. With the coming ban of the Internet, people better be ready for the blue hats and other foreign military. I**Q**d like to see NORAD and the Cook Island chain not show up on Google Earth anymore, but that**Q**s just me. *wink*

Comment by Ken Demyen
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I have always believed that the 2nd amendment protects the other amendments, including the 1st.
So they will have to take away the 2nd amendment before they can get rid of the others. Oh, wait, that**Q**s just what they**Q**re doing now.

Comment by Richard Stone
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You did the right thing to deny them access to your weapons with out a warrant. The forth amendment protect you from unreasonable search and seizure. If enough people stood up for their constitutional rights they would not be going around wasting your time and taxpayers money with this type of intimidation. Get their names and file a complaint, video them if they come back.


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