In the emails that our readers at Casey Research send our way,
questions and concerns about the possibility of gold confiscation rank
My somewhat standard response is that, yes, it’s possible, but that we
should see straws in the wind well before it happened… allowing us to
take measures to protect ourselves.
While I don’t want to make too big a deal about it, there have been
clear signs of late that the U.S. government is taking an unhealthy
interest in your gold.
While I think the overriding intent is to pave the road for the
implementation of a value-added tax (VAT), there’s no question that the
legislation simultaneously paints a target on the back of the free
trade of precious metals.
Now that you’ve watched the video – and if you don’t, some of what
follows won’t make any sense – I’d like to share some observations
based on personal experience.
Years ago, I headed up the publishing division of a company (that will
go unnamed) with a separate division selling coins. I was there when
the coin business started, and while not involved, was impressed at its
rapid growth in the heady days of the 1970s gold bull market.
Then something happened. While the founder was a strong advocate for
hard money and sincere in his intent to do the right thing by his
customers, as the coin business grew, he increasingly recruited
“professional” managers to run the firm – hired guns whose sole focus
was boosting the bottom line and, by so doing, their bonuses. And the
business hired more and more “professional” salespeople – the sort of
folks who know how to squeeze a client good and hard.
As the company’s sales soared, fueled by hard-hitting marketing, the
founder’s good intentions began to weaken under the onrushing flood of
cash that began to wash in. In time, the entire conversation at the
coin division switched from “What’s good for the customer?” to “What
coins can we sell with the biggest mark-up?”
On those occasions when I was invited to comment on what was going on, I
did what I could to argue against the corporate culture that had
developed, but my impassioned and increasingly angry fights with the
managers of the coin division couldn’t win out over the millions in
profits being made. As much as I enjoyed my job, the situation became
so degraded, I had no choice but to resign.
Now, let me be clear. The company broke no laws and, in fact, did
nothing that I suppose most businesses on to a good thing might not do;
marketing was generating lots of prospects, and the sales force was
The problem was that the product line had moved from selling highly
liquid government-issued gold and silver bullion coins to selling
illiquid “modern rarities,” an oxymoron if there ever was one. Whether
“proof” Mexican silver dollars, “treasure” coins, or privately minted
commemorative coins, the one thing you could be sure of was that the
mark-ups were huge.
Which meant that, in the absence of an active collectors market –
which, when it comes to “modern rarities,” just doesn’t exist, and
never will – the coins were very unlikely to ever provide a reasonable
return on investment, let alone be a good asset to preserve capital.
Quite the opposite, they were almost certain losers.
In the ABC video, you’ll hear a sound bite from a client of Goldline
who spent $5,000 on “collectible” coins, saying that he wanted to buy
bullion, but that the sales guy “kinda, sorta talked me into buying
these other coins.” Soon thereafter the buyer decided to sell those
coins and, when he did, he took a 42% loss. Which, he points out, was a
big hit to his net worth.
You can probably spot all the things wrong in that paragraph, but I’ll do it anyway.
First, the disgruntled former client says he was looking to buy bullion
coins, but the sales guy switched him to a “collectible.” Whose fault
is it that he allowed himself to be swayed? Quoting Nancy Reagan, when
dealing with a salesperson, often times the best thing to do is “just
Second, if taking a loss of about 42% on an investment of $5,000 really
hurts his net worth – he shouldn’t have been buying illiquid coins in
the first place.
Third, buying any “collectible,” or pretty much any asset, at full
retail and then turning right around and selling it, is invariably a
sure-fire ticket to a quick loss.
Finally, who is to say that the coin dealer that bought the coins off
the client didn’t lowball him? That, too, is part of generating a
profit in the coin business.
While I feel sorry for the former Goldline client, he really can’t
blame anyone but himself for that loss. He didn’t do his homework or
stick to his guns when the salesman tried to move him up to a
higher-margin product line.
As for the company, I don’t know them, but I do know that they spend a
lot on marketing and celebrity endorsements. It doesn’t take a genius
to figure out that money has to be recouped from somewhere –
specifically, the clients. Which is why I strongly suspect that, yes,
the company’s salesmen are especially aggressive. And that they try
very hard to load their clients up with high-margin coins.
Let me recap some lessons from this article, and based on my own brush with the business.
First, if you’re going to become a coin collector, don’t think you can
stumble into it and enjoy any measure of success. Do your homework –
then do some more – before actually laying out your hard-earned cash.
Fortunately, there are a lot of useful resources out there for you to
rely on… pricing guides, auction results, and numismatic groups, to
name just a few.
More important, however, is that if you are not going to be a
collector, then stay away from anything but U.S. or Canada-minted
bullion coins, or bullion bars issued by the widely acknowledged mints
such as Johnson Matthey.
Will the bullion products be exempt from confiscation, should it come
to pass? No. But trying to avoid confiscation by dealing yourself into a
large loss right out of the box by overpaying for an illiquid
pseudo-collectible is just silly… no matter what the sales person tells
What’s in the ABC Video That Should Concern You
While imminent confiscation isn’t really addressed in the ABC exposé of
Goldline, there were some things that caught my eye as worthy of
The first was the contention by the appropriately named NY congressman,
Anthony Weiner, that it was ludicrous to suggest that the government
could ever just confiscate a person’s gold. Excuse me? Deep breath. If
the Weiner were to repeat that contention to my face, the conversation
might roll out something like this…
“What!?! Did you actually just say what I think you said?”
“Why, yes, David, I did.”
“Are you kidding?”
“Why, no, David, I am not.”
“So, a government that can invade countries on false pretenses… arrest
people and throw them into prison camps and hold them indefinitely
without trial… whisk suspects off to foreign countries to be tortured…
hit targets in sovereign nations on the other side of the globe with
missiles fired from drones… declare imminent domain to take private
property in order to give it to a hotel developer… confiscate homes
because someone on the property, maybe not even the owner, is caught
with a marijuana cigarette… freeze the bank accounts of anyone
suspected of a crime, then not let them use their own money to defend
themselves… offer known criminals, murderers even, ‘Get out of jail
free’ cards if they testify against someone else… but they wouldn’t
confiscate gold? Oh, and by the way, Roosevelt already did it once, you
“Who are you calling a moron? Security, we have a problem.”
Another deep breath. Pat hair back into place and resist urge to apply my forehead to the keyboard.
But enough of Mr. Weiner.
The second thing that should concern you – and the EVP of Goldline
tossed Stephanopoulos a soft pitch down the middle on this one – was
when he mentioned that his salesmen have instructions to “advise” their
clients on the best sort of coins to buy. Paraphrasing Stephanopoulos,
“But your people aren’t licensed as investment advisors, are they?”
No, but I suspect that, if this witch hunt continues, they may soon have to be.
Especially because a congressional committee has been set up to
investigate this serious matter. Surprise, surprise, the co-sponsor of
the committee is none other than Congressman Weiner. Apparently he was
chosen for this particular bit of dirty work. While all of this may be
nothing more than grand standing and bare-knuckle politicking, any time
Congress gets involved, pretty much anything can happen; keep your
eyes open for a fresh assault on the gold coin industry.
And, finally, the thing that probably concerns me most is that,
whatever else he is, Glenn Beck is a highly visible and apparently
effective critic of the current administration. Having failed to knock
him off the air by unleashing a well-financed boycott
that chased away many of his advertisers, it appears the Democrats are
now pursuing their vendetta against Beck by attacking the business
practices of the show’s largest sponsor. No matter what your opinion is
of the man, this sort of determined government-backed assault should
make your antenna go up.
Is Goldline an angel? Based on my experience with the industry,
probably not. But in this case, I’m not sure that that matters as much
as that they sponsor Beck’s show.
A Final Word – on Confiscation
Do I think confiscation is imminent? No.
But I do think that the straws in the wind point to yet more
regulation. This could ultimately place gold dealers under the watchful
eye of the SEC or some other Frankenaucracy that emerges out of the
new financial reform legislation.
I am not a fan of regulation – even if it sounds like a good idea. For
instance, to protect the ignorant from predatory salesmen. My rationale
is that this is not a perfect world and never will be. Humans can and
will find a way around every rule (witness the fact that Madoff, the
former head of the NASDAQ, was able to scam billions off clients).
Therefore, the sooner the citizenry learns that they have to rely on
their own common sense – and actually educate themselves – before
reaching for their wallets, the better. Having an implied government
blessing over every transaction does nothing but create a false sense
But that’s just my particular, and some think peculiar, world view.
Back in the world we live in, any new regulations will, if nothing
else, assure that any private transactions between you and your
favorite coin dealer will become a thing of the past. The new reporting
requirement on purchases of over $600 pretty much makes that a
With this new layer of reporting in place, should the sovereignty come
to the conclusion that it, versus you, should be in possession of your
gold – they’ll know whose door to knock on.
Of course, we can’t know if and when such a thing might occur… but to
pretend it can’t is to be naïve or, in the case of Weiner,
In my article, “I Smell a VAT,” I touched on some ideas for how you
might protect yourself from a possible gold confiscation (none of which
involved buying overpriced coins.
There is one other option I didn’t mention – expatriate. Many of the
happiest people I have met in my life have their passport from one
country, residency in another, and money/gold in a third.