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Tonight's radio guest*, Religious Studies professor Ira Chernus, just published an article entitled Blood or Treasure: Obama's Crucial Choice in the Middle East. The article begins: "Writing about U.S. Middle East policy used to be a boring job. You'd start out with 'The U.S. supports Israel's stand on...' and then just fill in the details. No longer. Many pundits claim to smell the winds of policy change blowing from the White House." Why the change? Admitting that there is little hard information, just "a riot of rumors," Chernus suggests that a "new message from the military elite" is pushing the Obama administration to confront the Zionists. According to Chernus, such top US military leaders as Gen. Petraeus are drawing a line in the sand between America's interests and Israel's interests.

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Comment by truth seeker
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Im the gay jew here and i have been posting as these other people because im a lonely loser who looks at bestiality on the internet when im not bashing jews for being different

Comment by Concerned Patriot
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Whos the gay?

Comment by Light of India
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What is this gay talking about?

Comment by Concerned Patriot
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And now you are arguing with yourself.

The message is the same with all of your accounts even this new one and its not helping you at all.

Comment by Light of India
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Hey Concerned Libertaria, India is the greatest country in the world. Americans are like little schoolboys and girls when we are teaching them about the real important things in life, and this in not power and money, it is about spiritual awakening. And the Zionist are just extreme low level spirits bounded in the darkness.

Comment by Concerned Patriot
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If you are going to argue with me on this dont make other accounts AND take on the personas of other races that is just messed up.

Did you like my white people jokes? Because I can get more.

Comment by Persian American
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It is time for the US to make a coalition with the great Persians and invade Nazisrael!

Comment by African American
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Stop spreading out your racist propaganda against the lovely white people, Concerned Zionist! We know the Zionazis want us to have a civil war in the US, with the African Americans and the Mexican Americans against the European Americans. But we won’t fallow you, racist Zionist! You just want that we are all killing each other and then you can take over everything. We are not as stupid to fallow the racist Zionazis! Freedom for the people – bound Israel!

Comment by African American
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I do not believe one single word this Israel-worshipping Zionist is telling us. Everybody knows that the Zionists are always lying, cheating and abusing us. And who made the most profit by the slave trade? Just make your own resurch about the role of the Jews in the slave trade! “There were numerous Jewish slave ships that sailed the Atlantic and Caribbean. Jews were heavily involved in slavery since its beginning. “ (

Comment by Concerned Libertarian
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Stop cheating and tricking us, concerned Zionist! We are the greatest country on earth; and not your shitty Israel! You are trying to put us down like you did with other countries too before. But we, the free Americans, won’t let you do it with us. As long as we let you control and abuse us, the world became more and more against us and now we are hated all around the world. But as soon as we are going after you the world will be on our site and even adore and fight with us again! We are the freeborn Americans and we will win against you, you evil tricking Zionazis! We will win back our liberty and property you have stolen from us, bad Zionazis! We are not your slaves; we are free Americans! Join our website!

Comment by Mexican American
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The Zionists have stolen our liberty and property in Mexico and America by cheating, tricking and abusing us. This is clearly a declaration of war against all the good people all around the world! And besides of this they want to create a tribe and religion based World War III. Then the so called Goyim (the non-Jews) will kill each other and then the Zionists will laugh about us. This won’t work out anymore. It is enough that the Zionists created World War I and World War II. Stop them creating World War III by attacking Iran! People united to stop the bloodthirsty Zionists. Visit the website

Comment by Concerned Patriot
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So the self hating jews who see conspiracies everywhere are gone then?

  Q. What's white and fourteen inches long?
    A. Absolutely nothing!

    Q. What did a white guy see when he looked at his family tree?
    A. A straight line!

    Q. Why do so many white people get lost skiing?
    A. It's hard to find them in the snow.

    Q. What do you call a bunch of white guys sitting on a bench?
    A. The NBA.

    Q. What do you call 300 white men chasing a black man?
    A. The PGA tour.

    Q. How do you stop five white guys from raping a white woman?
    A. Throw them a golf ball.

    Q. Why do white people like to play hockey?
    A. It’s the only way to beat on something black if they're not a cop.

    Q. What's the definition of a white virgin?
    A. Any girl who can outrun her father and brothers.

    Q. How do you castrate a white person?
    A. Kick his sister in the jaw.

    Q. What do white women, and tampons have in common?
    A. They're both stuck up cunts.

    Q. What do you call a white person on fire?
    A. A firecracker

    Q. What do you call a bunch of white people falling?
    A. Avalanche

    Q. How did the white lady know her daughter was on the rag?
    A. Her son's dick tasted funny

    Q. What do you call a white man with a sheep under each arm?
    A. A pimp.

    Q. What do spoiled milk and a white bitch's thighs have in common?
    A. They're both white and chunky!

    Q. What did the black guy say when he went down on a dirty white bitch who hadn't washed for a week?
    A. "Damn, Bitch! I like eatin' crackers with cheese, but this is fuckin' nasty!"

Comment by Concerned Patriot
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 How do you get that i want to declare war on you?

Is it because i dont believe Israel is evil?

If that is the case then why would you assume that one person speaks for an entire country he is not even from?

You guys really need to work on getting your point accross in a coherent manner and please dont post anymore crap that you didnt bother to research.

Comment by American honor
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It sounds that the so-called “concerned patriot” from Israel wants to declare a war on us. Our American military is still much stronger then yours in Israel, do not forget this!

Comment by Concerned Patriot
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 If you read my source and comment you will note that End of the Matrix is probably a white supremacist who knows how to copy and paste empty anti semeitc rhetoric.

Please research your bullc**p before posting any of it here so i dont have to show these people how you are, itn not my job to teach you something useless.




Comment by Concerned Patriot
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 In responding to the alleged quotations from the Talmud it will be useful to divide them into four categories.

A) Quotations that are complete fabrications. They simply do not exist in any variation.

B) Quotations whose sources are unintelligible or nonexistent.

C) Quotations that are distorted, with mistranslations, insertions, or deletions, to the point that they barely resemble the original statement made in the Talmud.

D) Quotations that are fairly accurate, but having been removed from their original context and presented without the Halachic framework and backdrop in which and against which they were made, become impossible to understand. A prime example of this last category would the statement from tractate Nedarim concerning vows. It will be explained a bit later on.

We will analyze these "shocking but exact quotations," as this screed calls them, by the outlined categories.

Part A: Quotations that are complete fabrications.

Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

This simply does not exist, not in 59b either, or anywhere else for that matter. Even taking the wildest distortions into account, it still doesn't exist.

Tosefta Aboda Zara 13, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew kills a goy he is not responsible."

Pure fabrication. In fact the Tosefta of Avodah Zarah in section B only goes as high as number 3; there is no number 5 at all.

Tosefta Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

Again, this does not exist. The Tosefta at this point is discusses an entirely different matter.

Shulchan Aruch Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

No such statement in that section or any other section of the Shulchan Aruch.

Part B: Quotations whose sources are unintelligible or nonexistent.

Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

This does not exist. However, there is a tractate "Shavuot" that discusses the laws of oaths, and oaths is definitely what "schabouth" means. But "Hag" is totally meaningless, and "6d" is also incorrect, as there is no 6d. There is a 6a and 6b but this quotation is not there. As for the statement itself; quite the opposite is true as the Talmud in a number of places expressly states that swearing falsely is a terrible sin.[6]

Szaaloth Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

The source given for this quotation is useless. "Szaaloth Utszabot" means "questions and answers" and is usually called 'responsa.' "Szaaloth Utszabot ... Jore Dia" means a book that contains halachic Q&A about issues discussed in the Jore Dia (Yoreh Deah) section of the Shulchan Aruch. The problem is, there are a few thousand such books. Some centuries have passed since the writing of Yoreh Deah, enough time for a lot of rabbis to do a lot of writing. This is equivalent to telling someone interested in a recipe they can find it in "a cookbook" on page 29. Try that on a Jewish housewife. So there is no way to track this one down. But even assuming that this statement exists somewhere in an undistorted form, what it means is simply the following. Every religion claims some sort of uniqueness and specialness, and Judaism is no exception. Thank G-d in America we understand that this is precisely what freedom of religion is all about--living in peaceful coexistence in spite of these significant differing beliefs. It is this type of statement that the responsa, if it is legitimate, is referring to. For lest we forget, it was not too long ago, that in many countries Jews were persecuted mercilessly for these very beliefs and for just being Jews. Therefore, if the situation arose whereby it was necessary to fudge a Rabbinic comment here or there[7] in order not to incur the wrath of the local mob inciter, and if by not fudging, some statement might be used as an excuse for persecution, the author of this responsa is merely saying that is was required to do so.

Nidrasch Talpioth p 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

To begin with, it is "Midrash Talpioth" not "Nidrasch Talpioth." Furthermore, there is no 225-L at all in the work. So the accuracy and existence of this quote cannot be determined, unless of course one was to read the entire Midrash Talpioth, a thick tome with small letters, and a complex Kabbalistic work, from cover to cover. And given the batting average of the author of this screed we have our doubts as to the veracity of this quotation. Also this statement stands in direct contradiction to the statement in tractate Avot[8] "that all mankind was created in the image of G-d."

Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

"Gad. Shas." Doesn't refer to any known work. Suffice it to say that the Talmud and Shulchan Aruch clearly forbid a Jew to have any form of sexual relations with a non-Jew, consensual or not, in marriage or outside of it.[9]

Seph Jp., 92, 1: "G-d has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all the nations."

Again, "Seph. Jp.," is undecipherable and matches no known work.

Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all the Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us all openly."

Libbre David 37: "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death."

The various Jewish scholars that were consulted never heard of this work, and in all likelihood, it does not exist. It certainly is not in the libraries of synagogues or other Jewish institutions. A search of Internet using the Alta Vista search engine for the words "Libbre David" yielded fourteen results. Every single one of them were anti-Semitic Web sites with the same two miserable quotations. Not one normal Jewish Web site. It seems that "Libbre David," if it exists, is the essence of the creed of hate mongers.

The only thing that is shocking about these "shocking and exact quotations" is how someone can disseminate something so easily shown to be false. The author does not bear sole responsibility however, as this is certainly not an original work. This is not the first or only time a screed of this genre has been published, and this collection of supposed exact quotations is borrowed work, and probably has been recycled a number of times.

Part C: Quotations that are distorted, with mistranslations, insertions, or deletions, to the point that they barely resemble the original.

Yebhamoth 11 b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

Distorted. The correct version appears many times in the Talmud as follows: "A girl over three years of age that has had a sexual act performed upon her has the (halachic) status of a sexual act, under three years of age it does not have the (halachic) status of a sexual act." This statement is not discussing the permissibility, impermissibility, or for that matter, the advisability of having intercourse with three year old girls. Rather, it is propounding a principle of Jewish Law or Halachah, of which the Talmud has hundreds. In order to have any understanding of this statement, one must have some grounding and knowledge of the various areas in Halachah where it is pertinent to determine whether from the standpoint of Halachah an act of sexual intercourse has taken place. We will briefly outline one such situation.[10] In Leviticus (Chap. 18 and 21) the Torah lists certain forbidden relatives, some of which, if one has sexual intercourse with, can incur capital punishment to the consenting partners. (If it is rape, obviously only the rapist would be eligible for the death penalty.) The Talmud therefore maintains that should, for example, a father rape his daughter under three years of age he would not incur the death penalty, as that act would not be considered from a halachic standpoint as sexual intercourse. It is, of course, an unspeakably terrible deed.

(Please see the footnote to understand capital punishment as practiced in the Torah and Talmud).[11] This understanding of the Talmudic statement is not an interpretation that can be worked into the text; it is the simple explanation and has always been thus understood. The Talmud also gives a corresponding age for males below which it would not be considered true intercourse: nine years old. The Talmud also has a principle of statutory rape. In tractate Yevamot,[12] it states "seduction of a minor is rape." Furthermore the Talmud in Kiddushin 41a specifically states that one should not give his minor daughter away in marriage; this at a time when it was customary in other cultures to do so.

Aboda Sara 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years of age may be violated."

This distortion is similar to the previous one. The Talmud there is discussing certain laws of ritual impurity, their applications, and how they are contracted. The particular impurity under discussion can only be contracted by someone whom, as explained above has passed the minimum age, and were they to engage or be engaged in a sexual act, it would be halachically considered as such. As stated, for a female this is three years old. The Talmud there says that even though many types of ritual impurity can only be contracted by Jews, this particular impurity can be contracted by anyone. The statement without distortions is as follows "a Gentile girl three years of age, since an act on her would be considered true intercourse can also contract this impurity."[13]

Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

Some historical background is necessary to understand this Halachah. Over the past centuries Jews have had many dark periods. Government oppression, mob uprisings, and pogroms all took their toll. In some countries the central government was extremely weak, creating a situation where local communities were controlled by a local count or landowner. And if this landowner was a tyrant, the Jews often bore the brunt of it. Under these conditions, if the local overlord coveted the possessions of a particular Jew, he could find an excuse to do away with him. The excuse could take the form of a broken law, trying to evade the exorbitant taxes placed upon Jews, or perhaps something uttered that could be considered treasonous. To dig up this kind of information, the landowner might need an informer from the inside. Sadly, throughout the generations there were a handful of Jews, perhaps seeking to alleviate their grinding poverty, that turned traitor to their people and became paid informants. Living in the Jewish communities, they had access to information and passed it on to those that wanted it, which resulted in Jews being killed, or imprisoned were they languished for years and sometimes didn't emerge alive. This scenario is one of a few. When the Talmud discusses "informers," the situation was somewhat different. The basic premise that lives were in jeopardy is the same, however. How to deal with these informers is what this section of the Shulchan Aruch is about. (Choshen Hamm is a section in Shulchan Aruch). The quotation is somewhat distorted. What it actually says is, "If it can be proven that someone handed over three times, the money of Jews--or Jews themselves--over to non-Jews, a way must be found, etc. . . ." The words, "Jews themselves," mean that Jews were taken away and killed. This is not a punishment for a crime, rather it is simply to prevent it from occurring again. The Shulchan Aruch clearly states that if we do not have a reason to believe he will do it again, he cannot be killed. It also states that if any other means can be employed, it is forbidden to kill him. Even if only the possessions of the victims were confiscated, if it is perceived that this was good fortune and it is possible that the next time the victim may not be so fortunate, the informer may be stopped as he is endangering lives. This is the straightforward understanding of the relevant passages in the Shulchan Aruch. The other quotation brought in this screed, "it is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces," is from the same section and passage in the Shulchan Aruch and is talking about the type of situation just outlined.

Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

The title of the tractate is "Bava Metzia" not "Baba Necia." And there is no "114, 6," but a statement resembling this quotation does appear on 114b of that tractate. Accurately quoted, the statement reads "You (referring to Jews) are called 'Adam' Gentiles are not called 'Adam.'" The words, "but beasts," are a gross fabrication. The Talmud there is discussing the following verse, "This is the law if an 'adam' dies in a tent, anything that enters the tent or is already in the tent shall become impure for seven days" (Numbers 19:14). The Talmud wants to know if the Hebrew word "adam" in the verse, which usually translates simply as "a man" is referring to both Jewish and Gentile men or perhaps only to Jewish men, and Gentile corpses would not impart ritual impurity.[14] This question is the subject of a dispute between Rabbi Shimon and the other Sages. Rabbi Shimon is of the opinion that only Jewish corpses impart ritual impurity and makes the statement quoted above, that only Jews are called "adam," etc. Rabbi Shimon brings proof from another verse to his opinion. The other Sages disagree and maintain that the word "adam" in the verse refers to both Jews and Gentiles. But even Rabbi Shimon was speaking about this verse. There are other verses however, says the Talmud , in which "adam" clearly refers to Gentiles even according to Rabbi Shimon. For instance, the verse, "and the people (adam) numbered sixteen thousand," in Numbers 31:40 is speaking about Gentiles. Furthermore "adam" is just one of a few Hebrew words that mean "a man." There are others such as "ish," "enosh," and "gever." Regarding those words, again, even Rabbi Shimon agrees they refer to both Jew and Gentile. An example for the word, "ish," would be the verse "if a man (ish) brings an offering" (Leviticus 22:18), about which the Talmud states[15] that both Jew and Gentile can bring offerings to the Temple; a law not disputed by Rabbi Shimon.

Hilkkoth Akum XI: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."


Hilkkoth Akum XI: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

At least something similar to this appears in chapter 10 of Hilchot Akum in Maimonides' work. It is misquoted and mistranslated, the worst distortion being that it does not say "goyim" there at all. Rather it says, "akum" (as the section is titled!), which means idolaters. Idolatry in Judaism is a capital offense. Additionally in that same section, Jewish idolaters are not spared the wrath of Maimonides' pen and share the same fate.

Schulchan Aruch Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a gentile in his clutches another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile according to our law belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."

This quotation is so wildly distorted--almost beyond recognition--that it barely squeaked past being included in Part A. The Shulchan Aruch is discussing the laws of unfair business practice. The question on the table there is, to what extent a Jew may go to divert a business account held by his Jewish competitor from a Gentile customer. The passage there reads as follows, "If someone has an account with a Gentile, there are locales that forbid another Jew from interfering and attempting to divert the account away, in some locales, however, they permit this and allow a Jew to approach the Gentile and extend him loans, to do business with him, to offer monetary incentives in order to divert the business to himself, because the Gentiles' business is free and open to all who wish to get it."

Part D: Quotations that are fairly accurate, but having been removed from their original context.

Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

Although there is no such statement in the Talmud, this statement does appear in a commentary to that page of the Talmud called, "Tosafot," which was written about 700 years ago. It also appears in a Halachic Midrash called the "Mechilta." Let us quote the statement precisely, however, along with its entire context. In Exodus 10:7 it says, "And Pharoah took his six hundred best chariots and all of the chariots of Egypt and pursued the Children of Israel." Asks the Mechilta, "But from where did the Egyptians get horses to drive the chariots, didn't all the Egyptian livestock perish? (in the plagues of pestilence and hail) as it is written (Exodus 9:6) "and all the Egyptian livestock died"? The Mechilta responds that they must have belonged to those Egyptians that "feared G-d," as it says in Exodus 9:20, "He who feared G-d among Pharoahs subjects brought his servants and livestock inside their homes." The Mechilta continues, therefore "the best of Egyptians, kill." Egyptians not Gentiles; 3,300 years ago, not now. For it was those good "G-d fearing" Egyptians that gave chase (or at least lent their horses to give chase) to the Children of Israel with murderous intent. There is another version that reads, "The best of the Canaanites, kill." But again, the Children of Israel were at war with the Canaanites. The Mechilta is describing a wartime policy of not sparing even the seemingly good of the enemy for otherwise you may fall into their hands. This is also the way the Tosafot commentary to Avodah Zarah 26b explains this statement; that it refers only to times of war.

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-d: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

This statement is part of Midrash,[16] which contains many passages that are allegorical in nature, and are meant to be understood in a completely or partially nonliteral fashion. This is why there is a general principle that "we do not learn Halachah from Midrash."[17] That having been said, this statement can be understood even on the literal side. The Midrash gives as the source for its words the following verse in Zechariah 8:23, "So saith G-d, Lord of hosts, in those days ten men of foreign nations will grasp the edge of the garment of a Jew saying, 'let us go with you for we have heard that G-d is with you.'" This prophecy reflects the traditional Jewish belief that in the future G-d will once again dwell in Jerusalem and His word will emanate from there. All that can be seen from this verse then, is that the nations of the world will desire to learn about G-d and His word from the Jewish people. This may therefore be all that this statement means. The word "slaves" that is used here is translated from the Hebrew word "eved," which usually does mean slaves. It has softer meanings however. For instance, all the subjects of a particular king are said to be an "eved" of that king. Also, when relating that someone studied under a certain sage, the Talmud uses the expression "so-and-so served Rabbi so-and-so,"[18] using the same term.

Schulchan Aruch Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."

The first half of the quotation is accurate, but the words, "because the touch has made the wine unclean," are an unauthorized addition. The rationale for this law has nothing to do with "contamination." Some historical background will be helpful in understanding this law. This prohibition was created by a Rabbinic enactment. The Talmud explains that the Sages were motivated by two factors. One was to aid in preventing intermarriage; if a Jew couldn't drink wine touched by a Gentile, it would be difficult to attend non-Jewish social events, nipping possible relationships before they can bud. The second reason was as follows. The Torah forbids a Jew from deriving any benefit from something used for idolatrous purposes. Since the nations among whom the Jews dwelt were all steeped in one form of idolatry or another, and wine was commonly used in worship, all wines purchased from a Gentile contained the possibility that it was associated with idol worship. To remove any vestige of doubt, the Sages proscribed all wine contacted by a Gentile. Today, however, this prohibition does not have that significant an impact on the average person. This is because the Sages exempted from their prohibition wine that was "mivushal," which means "cooked." This is accomplished simply by heating the wine to a high enough temperature.[19] The reason for this exception is because this type of wine was uncommon, considered of lower quality and not used for worship. Most wines sold in the U. S. that carry kosher certification are "mivushal." Additionally, since today the fear that the wine was used for idol worship is basically no longer extant, so even the prohibition on nonmivushal wine, while still in force, is a little less stringent in certain respects.

Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into the Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

The death sentence here is not literal; the Talmud is merely conveying the severity of the matter. There are a good number of such statements in the Talmud where the words "deserving of the death" or a similar phrase are clearly not literal and were always understood nonliterally. For instance, take the statement in Tractate Avot,[20] "If someone was traveling on a road and studying Torah and he interrupts his study to say, "How beautiful this tree is,' the Torah considers him guilty of death." Maimonides[21] also maintains that the statement in Sanhedrin is nonliteral. And wherever a list of real capital offences is enumerated (idolatry, murder, etc.), whether in the Talmud or in later works, this is not mentioned. As to the reason why the Sages viewed this so seriously, we can surmise that they knew that if the laws of the Torah would be studied by nonpractitioners of the Jewish faith, all sorts of different interpretations, practices, and distortions would be espoused, creating confusion. And many Jews may be led astray. Additionally the Talmud on that very page states that a Gentile who studies those moral laws of the Torah that were given to all mankind,[22] (theft, murder, adultery, etc.), that Gentile "is like the High Priest."

Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'every vow which I may make in the future shall be null.' His vows are then invalid."

This supposedly shows the Talmud giving Jews a green light to lie, cheat, and steal; a Jew need only to utter this formula and, Viola! no vows or spoken word is binding. What is lacking is a little knowledge of some very relevant information. In Jewish Law there is something called a "neder," which is loosely translated as "a vow." A "neder" is not a promise or agreement with another party, but rather a private resolution whereby one declares something to be forbidden to oneself. For instance, if one states, "All the apples in the world are forbidden to me for the next thirty days," he must keep his word or else violate the commandment in Numbers 30:3, which says, "He may not profane his words according to all he said he must do." There really are no limits, anyone can make anything forbidden to himself personally by simply making a "neder." The Talmud also derives from certain verses and from an oral tradition that one can extricate oneself from a vow by approaching a rabbinical court of three judges knowledgeable in the laws of Nedarim (plural of Neder), outlining why he no longer desires to keep the vow, and if certain conditions are met, the vow is voided and the item becomes permitted. If someone knows he or she has a nasty habit of making vows in the heat of the moment, there is another tool at his disposal to alleviate the problem; he can make the above declaration. What is hopefully clear is that these vows have nothing to do with transactions made between man and fellowman. Regarding any condition or other oral agreement made between two people, this little declaration is of course meaningless. This is not apologetics or some interpretation, it is the absolute bare bones simple explanation that is abundantly clear from every page of tractate Nedarim. Additionally the Talmud specifically states[23] that if someone did a make a "neder" in a manner, that its voiding would affect other people, the court will not void the vow unless it is within that persons right to affect those people in that particular manner.

Not wishing to turn this essay into a Talmudic treatise unto itself, we hope the responses provided will be adequate.

Aside from the responses to the individual quotations however, we would like to pose a question of a general nature. If the Talmud, the Shulchan Aruch, and the Jewish People have such a visceral, racial, and deep seated hatred and contempt for Gentiles, why is it that Jews all over the world, from time immemorial, have always, and continue to lovingly accept converts from all races and nationalities?

Finally we would like quote some statements of our own from the Talmud.

On Honesty

In reality, the Talmud, while allowing those little white lies of social niceties (you look great today! etc.), demands searing honesty and truthfulness. If the world would only live up to half the level demanded by the Talmud it would be a far better place. There are tens if not hundreds of sayings throughout the Talmud and Midrash emphasizing the importance of honesty. Here are only a few pointed and telling quotations.

Shabbat 31 a: "The first issue to be judged and asked upon (after a person's soul departs this world and enters the spiritual realm) is 'have you dealt honestly?'"

Shabbat 55a: "G-d's seal and signature is truth."

Makkot 24a: "He speaks the truth in his heart."[24] What does this refer to? queries the Talmud. The Talmud replies "Like the case of Rabbi Safra." Rabbi Safra had an item for sale. A buyer offered him a price to which he agreed, in his mind. The buyer not realizing that Rabbi Safra agreed, quoted a higher amount. Rabbi Safra honored the lower Price.[25]

On morality

Again, the moral standards of the Talmud are extremely high, something anyone with some background in Talmud can verify. It should be sufficient to quote just one Halachic statement, found in the Talmud and codified in the Shulchan Aruch to prove this point.

Shulchan Aruch Even Haezer section 22: "It is forbidden for a Jewish man or woman to ever be alone with someone of the opposite gender, whether that someone is Jewish or not." [26]

This Halachah is kept by observant Jews the world over to this day. Undoubtedly it has prevented untold numbers of disasters, the type of which it was designed to prevent.

On Gentiles

Avot 3:18 "All of Mankind is beloved, because it was created in the image of G-d."

Avot 3:18 "An even greater love was shown to man by informing him that he was created in the image of G-d, as it is written "in the image of G-d He made man."

Tosefta Sanhedrin 13: "Righteous Gentiles are destined for the World to Come." [27]

Tana Dvei Eliyahu[28] 10: "Let heaven and earth testify, that whether Jew or Gentile, man or woman, each person according to their actions, will they be graced by Divine spirit and inspiration."


  • Gittin, 60b.
  • The history in the Talmud is not discussed as history per se, rather it is usually to make a halachic or ethical point.
  • The later codifiers too, based their decisions upon principles contained in the Talmud itself.
  • The language of the Talmud, a dialect of which is spoken in modern day Iraq, where the Talmud was written.
  • The word "Torah" can have two meanings: a) the Pentateuch, and b) a collective term that includes the entire gamut; all of the Old Testament and the entire Oral Law up to and including the final halachic decisions.
  • Shabbat 33a, Nedarim 20a, Bava Metzia 6a, Shavuot 39a, Avot 5:9, Erechin 16a, and Gittin 36a. It is especially clear from this last source (Gittin 36a) that subterfuge wording accomplishes nothing in lessening the severity of the sin. There are also many more statements in the Midrash expressing the severity of taking a false oath.
  • As long as one does not deny a cardinal principle of Judaism.
  • 3:18.
  • This is clear all over the Talmud and Shulchan Aruch. Just to quote 2 sources: Avodah Zarah 36b and Shulchan Aruch. Even Haezer 22:2.
  • An additional situation can be gleaned from the response to the quotation immediately following this one.
  • Those knowledgeable in Talmud know that the "eye for eye" image of biblical justice, meted out swiftly and often is incorrect. In order for anyone to receive the death penalty, the Talmud based on the Oral Law and derivation from verses, requires the following. A) Two salient unimpeachable witnesses to the act. The witnesses must be of good reputation because proof that these witnesses committed certain sins (theft, adultery to name a few) will disqualify them. B) The defendant has to have been warned of the consequences of his actions immediately prior to doing it. C) The defendant must verbally acknowledge receipt of this warning prior to committing the act. These conditions also apply to forbidden sexual acts. This is why the Talmud (Makkot 7a) says, "a Sanhedrin that metes out capital punishment even once every seven years are called 'destroyers.' Rabbi Eliezer, the son of Azariah, says even once every seventy years." Incidentally, the Talmud (Bava Kamma 83b et. al.) goes to some length to explain and prove from the Torah itself that an "eye for an eye" cannot be literal, rather it is monetary compensation. It is worthwhile to bear in mind that the Talmud wrote these things a long, long time ago, and was not an attempt to liberalize or modernize the Torah. Also, after the Sanhedrin ceased to convene in the Temple (they did convene elsewhere) they no longer had the halachic power to administer capital punishment. This occurred forty years before the destruction of the Second Temple (Avodah Zarah 8b).
  • Yevamot 33b and 61b.
  • The laws of ritual purity are almost completely applicable only in Temple times when one had to be ritually pure at various times for various purposes.
  • This disagreement only pertains to being under one roof (tent) as the corpse, regarding contact of the corpse however, all maintain that both Jewish and Gentile corpses impart ritual impurity. Also the words, "a man," throughout this discussion are not meant to exclude women as these laws pertain to women as well.
  • Menachot 83b and Chullin 13b.
  • The Midrashic and non?literal nature of this quotation can further be seen in the way the number 2800 is derived.
  • Yerushalmi Peah 2:4, and Chagigah 1:8, Rabbi Hai Goan in Otsar Hageonim Chagigah 67, Rabbi Sherira Goan ibid 68, and lastly Rabbi Shmuel Hanagid in his "Introduction to the Talmud."
  • For example the statement in Chagigah 12a "Rabbi Akiva served Nachum Ish Gamzu for 22 years."
  • According to many authorities the pasteurization process accomplishes this. Therefore, if a Gentile would touch wine after this process it would not pose any problem.
  • 3:9.
  • Hilchot Melachim 10:9.
  • As opposed to the overwhelming majority of the commandments of the Torah, which according to Judaism, G-d commanded only the Jewish people to observe. According to Judaism therefore, it is not a sin, or wrong at all for a Gentile to eat nonkosher, not observe Sabbath, etc. This concept is an extremely important difference between Judaism and other religions, cannot be overemphasized, and is essential for understanding Judaism. It also has many important ramifications.
  • Gittin 36a-36b.
  • Psalms 15:2.
  • Aside from the words inside the quotation marks this statement is not quoted verbatim as the format in which the Talmud relates this makes a verbatim quote impossible.
  • This law is found in the Talmud in Kiddushin 80b and Avodah Zarah 36b. Also this law does not apply to very close relatives such as father-daughter, etc.
  • This can also be directly inferred from Sanhedrin 107b-108a as the Talmud there lists certain wicked Gentiles that will not merit the World to Come.
  • This work is not part of the Talmud, it is a Midrash composed about the same time as the Talmud.
  • Try to dispute this dumbass

    Comment by truth seeker
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     I love jews really i do its just that im trying to impress the other conspiracy theorists and get in the sack with that big guy and they all hate jews so im going to say bad things about them. and yes i am jewish and gay its just the way i am and i am ashamed.

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     Israeli mossad? Conspiracyyyyyyyyyyy.

    Anyway do you honestly think Israel the greatest country on Earth is paying me to do this? Please go fuck a cow and by cow i mean your mom, oh burn oooooooohhhhh.

    Internet tough guys like you make me sick so stop blaming everything on the Jewish people or i may have to take drastic measures.

    Comment by End of the Matrix
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    Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia. "A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Via 17."A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them." Ahhh, your so called "holy scriptures" allow you to rape? Very interesting. How many children get raped daily by the so called "chosen people of God", the Jews? And then you blame what you are doing on the cathlics right, with your always lieing mass-media?!

    Comment by End of the Matrix
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    Hey, so called “Concerned Patriot” from Israel, do not speak in the name of the “truth seeker” anymore, telling us that you like to rape children. This is really disgusting what you and/or your Zionist accomplice are doing here. How much are you getting paid from the Israeli Mossad to post this kind of shit to blame it on the Anti-Zionists? We all know that the Zionist are always into false flag-operations, like 9/11, but now you are even coming up with raping children? Was 9/11 not enough for the Israel-Lobby to create? Now the Zionist are going to go so far to rape children as a “sacrifice” for their so-called “God” to blame these crimes on others if they do not like their opinion?

    Comment by Anti- Talmudist
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    "The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144).

    Comment by Real Patriot
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    "Anti-Semitism is so instinctive that it may quite simply be called one of the primal instincts of mankind, one of the important instincts by which the race helps to preserve itself against total destruction. I cannot emphasize the matter too strongly. Anti-Semitism is not, as Jews have tried to make the world believe, an active prejudice. It is a deeply hidden instinct with which every man is born. He remains unconscious of it, as of all other instincts of self preservation, until something happens to awaken it. Just as when something flies in the direction of your eyes, the eyelids close instantly and of their own accord. So swiftly and surely is the instinct of anti-Semitism awakened in a man...there is not a single instance when the Jews have not fully deserved the bitter fury of their persecutors." (Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live, (1934), p. 64). (

    Comment by Anti- Semit
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    An anti-Semite used to mean someone who didn't like the Jews (though the Semites comprise a large group of people). Then it came to mean someone disliked by the Jews. Now it means someone who realizes American interests are not the same as Jewish/Israeli interests and who does not want America's course directed by Jewish/Israeli interests. (

    Comment by Ross Wolf
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    Before the Times Square Suspect was found the video of the suspect was very telling.

    In the video the suspect appeared to exhibit aberrant conflicting behavior, for example the suspect appeared oblivious to the surveillance cameras that inundated the NYC street he used to walk from the Pathfinder, but suddenly stopped not far from the vehicle and in a convert manner did an about-face and appeared to use the pretense of shedding his shirt to steal glances of the vehicle he just set to blow, but made no effort to hide his face and head from near by cameras e.g., not wearing a baseball cap from the onset. It was subsequently reported the suspect left his house keys on the key ring inside the Pathfinder; had removed the vehicle VIN number inside the Pathfinder but not the serial numbers on the axle and engine block among several other oversights. Erratic thought processes exhibited by the bomber suspect show him doing some crime related tasks well and completely overlooking concealing other clues. And it should be noted how quickly the suspect started talking to the feds, telling them most anything they wanted to know. Is it possible this suspect might be subject to an array mental illnesses the feds are not talking about?

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     My bad upon inspection to call the cops it looks like that one wasnt you the ID number is different but you are still a bad person none the less nazi

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     Truth seeker you sick self hating jew nazi piece of sh*t

    That is just messed up I bet they are little JEWISH kids arent they?!

    I knew you guys were anti semites but this this is just ridiculous now your a child molester? why have the police not caught you then?

    You make me sick I dont want anything to do with this place.

    Comment by truth seeker
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     I like to rape little kids

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     Whoa now whos the jew here? Not me

    Its those guys who keep bashing their homeland and their people and are thus claiming responsibility for 9/11.The nazi jews here who wont talk to me anymore

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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    The self hating jews or possible nazis wont talk to me anymore }: (

    Saying 9/11 was done by the jews is just stupid thats all im saying and I dont want to talk to you either so >: b

    Comment by truth seeker
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    Hi, so called “Concerned patriot”: Why are you bringing up this nonsense about Jewish parents? Do you know our parents? You do not know anything, and it does not matter at all if our parents are Jewish, Moslem, Christian, Buddhist, Hindis or whatever. We are speaking out our real concerns and this is all that matters. You are just manipulating and want to take the attention away from the real issue and from receiving our point of view. In this case your comments are not valuable for us. We do not like cheaters, manipulators and the spirits of the evil; and we are not going to talk to you anymore.

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     I am talking about the comments you guys are making here about how jews are evil not the article.

    Now go and have a talk with your jewish parents maybe they can set you all straight and teach you not to hate yourselves

    Comment by Zionist Teacher
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    German Prophet, I have to teach you how our free and democratic society works: You have to love the US-Department of Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, the police state, the IRS, the government taking away you property, your rights and your freedom, and also you have to love killing and torturing children in the war. If you do not love this, then you are an Anti-Semit and a Nazi. Do you understand?

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     WHOA now im not your dear, and what do you mean a "reasonable opinion"?

    Children of the new said and I quote:

    "Everybody knows that 9/11 was an inside job, made in Israel"

    The jews did it huh? Very reasonable

    And then truth seeker said in response to my comment:

    "Please, can someone tell me where and how to get a government licensee as an Anti-semit and Nazi? I would like to get this greatest award in the world for the most enlightened and lovely people too."

    *sarcasm*You guys are reeeeeaaaaalll level headed here I can clearly see that now*sarcasm*

    Comment by Ask a question
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    Please, can someone tell me where and how to get a government licensee as an Anti-semit and Nazi? I would like to get this greatest award in the world for the most enlightened and lovely people too. Hahahahihihihohoho

    Comment by Concerned Patriot
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     What the hell is this?

    Anti-semitic comments everytime when it comes to Israel you guys are nazis thinking that not only was 9/11 an inside job but that it was also a conspiracy by the jews.

    Comment by enlightend children
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    No wars anymore, no fingerprints, no body-scanners, no National ID-card, no police state with tasering people, no obligation to pay to a “health insurance”, no IRS, no US-Department of Homeland Security, no child murder (called abortion), no forced second-hand smoking, no forced vaccinations, no genetic modified food.

    Comment by German Prophet
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    In a free society the people are controlling the government and in a Zionist Society the government is controlling, hurting and enslaving the pure-hearted people.

    Comment by German Prophet
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    Americans, I have a message for you: After you put all this endless guilt on your shoulders by serving the bloodthirsty Zionists who wants to cause the World War III and kill at least 6 Billion people on earth, means almost everybody, as a “sacrifice” for their so called “God” (that is in reality just a demonic monster, an extreme bad spirit in the darkness) you have only one chance to safe your country from falling down completely together with Israel: The American president has to fall to his knees and ask for forgiveness towards all the people that got hurt, also for all the animals that got killed and also for all the wonderful nature that got destroyed and poisoned. Than you should compensate for what you did. And of course you have to put all the people into the prison that are responsible for all this wars and war crimes. And do not forget the most important part: You have to invade Israel and disarm them completely. But tray to do it without killing anybody, because the Israeli-Zionists that are obviously possessed from extreme bad spirits should live as long as possible with the bad spirits bounded in their bodies, so the bad spirits won’t move out and possess other people. And here some quotes of the Zionists that describe clearly what kind of monsters you have to deal with: Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan 9ruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348. "A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat." Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia. "A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." Sepher Ikkarim III c 25: "It is permitted to take the body and life of a gentile." Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Via 17."A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them." Bammidber raba c 21 & jalkut 772: "Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." And if you want to know more about the Zionists and their real agenda, then visit the website: The Americans were the useful idiots for the Zionists. The whole world hates you because of the cruelty and crimes you have committed for Israel, and in some areas the people even starting to hunt Americans now. As a German friend of real America and a spiritual enemy of the Zionist US-Monster I beg you to get your self-respect back and stop these Zionist monsters. And also please forgive me if I made some mistakes in my spelling, but I am a beginner with English.

    Comment by children of the new age
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    Excellent article. I did not expect that Americans would be able to be so honest about the crimes they did commit on order of Israel. Everybody knows that 9/11 was an inside job, made in Israel. And you used it to bring endless suffering into the world with your bloodthirsty war OF terror. You, the Israeli Army of the United States of America, raped, tortured and killed children, pure-hearted men and women and even American journalists in Afghanistan and Iraq. You destroit there houses, you destroyed everything they had build up in decades with love, compassion and devotion. You destroyed the life of millions of people. You even enjoyed killing animals just for fun. Also you poisoned the wonderful nature over there, and that will be poisoned now for thousands or even millions of years. We, the high sensitive and special skilled children of the new age, won’t accept this anymore. We consider Zionism and Talmud-Judaism as the worst crimes ever exist on the planet earth. And yes, the Jewish mass lying media can call us Anti-Semites with their false lying propaganda. But then we will answer you: We are proud to be “Anti-Semites” because all the good, sensitive, compassionate, peaceful and responsible people are “Anti-Semites”!

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