Funny how I missed this most comment by Joseph Vanderville didn't show up to me under the Freedom Forum.  How odd.    

If this page has an Ad Hominem specialist it is YOU Joseph Vanderville (alias), whoever you are.  And your "programming" to be an "expert" in higher "education" in economics if even true, it doesn't hold weight with a lot of people.  Only the less informed. And to correct you, you have used JVdeville before.   Remember that? 

You have put down more people's words and built yourself up at the expense of others.  If anyone has a mental illness here, for which you like to constantly pull out that card, it is you.  You are so clearly narcissistic that you cannot see how distasteful your self-agrandizing is, which I can see is a desperate attempt to wipe egg off of that attorney face. 

Perhaps why some of us are more angry on here than others is because some of us are taking abuse form people like you who are not suffering in the status quo.  Put me down all you want, lie about me being on meds, or lies of using drugs or your usually mud-slinging of calling people who have the moral fortitude to CARE:  mentally ill, I know that attorneys love to use that one, I have had the great displeasure of working with attorneys most of my life.  But you can simply skip over my name when you see it if you do not like what I write.  

Just because someone uses slight profanity once in a while like the word "ass" which is even in the bible, well, I guess that automatically makes you superior in your world now doesn't it.  Why don't we just have more integrity in our dealings and we won't incite a need to call people out on their BS that keeps people enslaved to the propaganda that you support.

I happen to see a lot of great stuff on here, and I value a different perspective to your  obvious privileged status-quo loving one.  So at least back off of your own Ad Hominem personal slander against me and others who do not experience life the same way.  The worst mudslinging is fabricating lies about mental illness and drug use, etc. to convince another that a writer on here has no human value, and that therefore, no worth in listening to them.

Profanity free or not, last time I checked your latest claim to fame and being the expert on the subject you were an attorney claiming economics background, not a psychiatrist or doctor, or even the public heights of a social worker.  So perhaps you should keep your opinions to where your scope lies.  You can't be an expert in everything you know... 

I happen to have an educational background in political science and sociology including law and the private lobby, and not that it is any of your business, I was recruited to teach psychology at the college level by a former board of director for the ASU schools.  So what I write is not something that I just made up.  I know it threatens your way of life, but even you have to see that the way that things are headed is a serious, serious social problem.  Something your training, perhaps won't allow you to you envision.  But I have to believe from my gut, that you are one of those "many" who are raised that it is okay to keep certain secrets to yourself...  that criminal racketeering is a way to protect your kind.  Perhaps I am wrong.

I just know that the "mentally ill" card is a favorite abuse and you certainly like to use it a lot.  

Good luck with that.

We'll see ...

I go along with Ufactdirt’s observation that this page should be spared from the vendetta of those "who are obviously mentally ill".

I also stand behind PureTrust’s suggestion to create another Section where name-calling and badmouthing -- like what this Kim Dryer is doing to me and the rest she imagined are her "enemies" -- are automatically directed away from this Forum. I have been saying all the time that we can use this page for the discussions of important issues without the interference of swearing and dirty-name-calling coming from very emotionally disturbed persons who are not yet cured of their mental and emotional nightmares that come to one's life.

I am not new to this page and I knew who those "Ad Hominem specialists" are. They will find that recommended detour Section for the very angry, most useful, because it is where they can ventilate their suffocating rage and let the steam off their chest. They don't need to ponder deeply and write down their position in the debate. In that Section, all they have to do is let their steam off using those unprintable words that are so natural to them -- unprintable words that they live with everyday, or cannot live without.

As to the use of pen names, I prefer to use only one. In that way, I have only one name to hold, cherish and protect which is good to my self-esteem, rather than go wild under cover of so many user names, and lost my self-respect. I am here to make use of the higher learning I have labored in life to acquire, and share them with others where it is wanted or when it is deemed necessary. I have moved forward already far ahead in education, esoteric knowledge in the Academe and in learning Advance Philosophies in Economics, Law and Theodicy involving the studies of higher moral values where others are just starting. To step backward and fall into the gutter, is something that can no longer dwell in my mind. That's way it really makes me sad when people resort to name-calling as their only best argument on important issues we need to discuss in this Forum, not only specifically for the interest of our reading public in particular but also in general, for the benefit of the Commonweal.

You know, as an alternative to an automatic mud-slinger's section, you could simply dump their Username over there manually if they finally get too obnoxious.

Anybody can have more than 1 Username. All he/she need do is join a second (third, fourth, fifth, etc.) time. Everyone could have one of their Usernames that they do absolutely no mud-slinging with, just so that they could remain in the regular comments section of the forum. You guys would never transfer it to the mud-slinger's section, that way, because it would never be offensive or obnoxious. And the user would always have a method of posting on--point comments.

Now, I know that this might be a little extra work for you, but there aren't many mud-slingers. So transfers wouldn't need to be done often. Oh, well.

Thanks for listening.

Ernie or Powell, personally, I would have never thought that this forum would turn into as big of a mud-slinging contest as it has... at least in some areas. Sure, this can happen a little in any forum, but this is getting ridiculous.

Is there some kind of programming our there that will automatically transfer mud-slinger comments into a separate section? You know what I mean. Kinda like the foul language dictionaries that automatically eliminate posts that use foul language. Only, in this case it would simply place them into their own section rather than eliminate them - you know, a separate link that takes you to the mud-slinger comments. It might even have a number-of-comments listing like your main page does. Because these folks DO have some interesting ideas inside all that mud-slinging... sometimes.

Ask Michael K. about this. There might be some ready-made programming out there that can be adapted to Freedom's Phoenix. After all, it's hard enough to stay on point at times, without all this mud-slinging muddying the waters.

Thanks, guys.

Wow, I never knew that I was so important. Please don't let my experiences and documentation of such upset you, some of you really are losing it. Maybe you should channel your energies on this site towards what it is intended for. :). Peace out. ( and thanks for giving what I have to say so much additional attention.

If we are all viewing this page AT THE SAME TIME which happens most often, we have this splinter Kim Dryer in our eyes that writes crazy. We write our discomfort ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME, triggering this girl’s paranoia that those who criticizes her or reacting negatively to her baloney are all but one person. She gives everyone "Names" of people who either bumped her or dumped her in some kind of a "worldwide conspiracy" purposely designed to kill only her. Like the rest, she badmouthed me when in her imagination she thinks I am the person she knew who gave her a hard time, the same way she slandered the rest under the names of persons she wanted to "kill" for the "evil" they have done to her.

Let’s not turn this page into a vendetta for those who are obviously mentally ill.

I want this piece clear to the publisher. The comments of this character Pussycat calls "Kin Dry" is not only obnoxiously bitter and dry -- it is so venomously rancorous and dirty one would think these are coming from hell. From how and what she writes, definitely she is not normal … she is too sick to write. She had lined up my name with the names of others imagining that I and those others are the same person who could not stomach her. I am afraid I have to agree with Pussycat that she should not only be ignored, but she should also be erased immediately as a pestering nuisance.

I have read all what this mentally disturbed person had commented so far … not a single comment is relevant – repeat not relevant to the issue being discussed. It is all the same narrations of her "tragic" experiences living with some people she believed had made her life so miserable.

I recommend she should be ERASED from this page because when discussions are in progress, she would jump in and repetitiously print her personal grievances that have nothing to do with the issues discussed. She is not only diverting attention away from the discussion but she is redirecting attention towards the blood of tears story of her life, aside from stealing spaces reserved for others who would like to join the discussions.

@ Pussycat, Renee Houlihan, whoever you really are... I wish you would ignore me...   For the record, I am not the one trying to get Ernie's attention and getting ignored, you are.  He won't follow your gang-stalking requests to disparage me because he knows better.  TRANSALTED:  PISS OFF PLEASE?  Thank you.  I will track you down and serve you Renee in your new of many locations and prove it if it is you, and I will sue your ass. 

Gangstalking in various states is a felony, did you know that?  And your investigative report lends a lot of evidence that you are indeed part of the Bankster real estate racket. 

My symphaty, poor Kim Dry … I will just IGNORE you, like Ernie does, and like how the rest of us you attacked ignore you, until you are medically cured of your depression. Once you are back to normal, I am sure you will stop writing those repeating and repeating gibberish nonsense … symptomatic of an aggressive disoriented behavior because of your mental and emotional trauma.

Oh and "Pussycat", I see under headline:           Romney, Romney, Romney        that a wonderful person named "Ima Fan" calls you a liar as well!  Better change your screen name.

@Pussy cat, I made no such admission about being on drugs, where did you get that?  I said to the contrary.  I have never been a drug addict, nor do I use illicit or pharmaceudical drugs!  I would never EVER take pharmaceudicals, they are terrible for your brain, your wellness and your liver.  So, WTF? I have received professional counseling and it was not recommended as the problem is the environment, not my head.  My father's being murdered is the environment, not my head.  But the drug companies, illicit and legal, brainwash us to think that we need to damage our bodies with these things.

You are a stalker trying to discredit me and because I have been outing you, you are getting even with SLANDER.  My divorce therapist, a Ph.D. knew my situation and did not recommend medication, in fact, sees what I see, and at the time, she didn't want to alarm me to the reality of how huge of an issue I was facing with my ex, a lawyer, and a Cohen was secretly money-laundering for the CIA- supporting banking cartels.  I saw two Ph.D.s per my exhusband's recommendations and both of them saw my husband as the problem.  Two marital counselors, both Ph.D.s as well, if I am correct that is, told me to leave him, that he is the problem and incurable.  And to even hide money, because of lengths he would go to, so that I could leave him, and not to tell him where I am going. 

 One of them allegedly supposedly called anonymously using her first name to my lawyer, afraid of what he was capable of doing to me for money. 

Many of these commissioned "Jews" of Khazarian descent (I call them King's men for the Roman Empire/Vatican, Jews by mass conversion) are in national intelligence and the drug-trade and have relationships to the Banks to fund Israel... for their criminal amnesty. (Read Revelation 2:9 and 2:9)... It explains everything, man made or real, it is happening.

 As for your CONSTANTLY pushing this "All government protestors have paranoid schizophrenia"  well, that is rubbish created by an ideology of criminals taking over and passing laws to cover their behinds and AS A GOVERNMENT AGENDA, CALL PROTESTORS MENTALLY ILL IF YOU ARE AGAINST THEM. Rob them, slander them, lock them up, Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 says it all.  Hijacking of the Jewish Identity is a perfect shield for criminal activity.  Don't believe me?  Research Myer Lansky and his 60 years controlling the "Je-wish" mafia, including Hollywood control through Lou Wasserman (Ronald Regan's appointment)... Do the damn homework.

Further "Pussycat," I caught you and your FRAUD stalker counterparts "bayag" and "brag" all within a few seconds of each other trashing me this morning.  I guess you are being paid by the CIA (illicit drug/pharmaceutical drug protectors who formed and use Israel-yes CIA formed same year as a solution to Vatican perpetrations- Israel colonized by the Crown, thus their alliance as mutual benefactors/banking cartels with a biblical one-world banking mission, serving the wealthy elite who use our military for say, Afghanistan's opium... or Iraq and Iran's oil...).   It is about these ultra wealthy families getting control of us before we see them, organize and revolt.

 With all the media lies keeping us confused, who has time to figure out what is truly going on behind the scenes with Halliburton's intentions of detention work camps that we all paid for and built all through Iraq that my 25 -year military bronze-starred Army cousin tells me, who is away from his children right now in Afghanistan..... risking  his life for the drug-lords.

Pure Trust, I love how you turn the government argument around to prove their formula to make them the mentally ill!  Which any sane, and aware person can see!  They want us depressed so they can sell more drugs!  And for the illicit drugs sold, the prison industrial complex will get richer as well!  What an ingenious way to squeeze more honey from the hive.

As for Pussycat?  If I find out who you are, lying about me like JV is, a slimy attorney, (one team perhaps?  You do gush all over him and I believe he advertises here under a different name, same initials) I will sue you for everything you have.  And I do not need a lawyer to do it.  And if I find out that you are Renee Houlihan, whom I had to obtain a restraining order against after blocking every avenue I could from her contacting me, you had better stop it here and now.  I am not going to stand back and take lies and slander from you about claims you state that are FALSE.  I never wrote such a thing and you know it!

Can't you all see Ivor E. Tower, M.D. is a spoof  for "Ivory Tower" corporate world where modern day it is easy to waive your money to get what you need to buy, but holding these Ivory Tower companies accountable for rip-off scams designed to make them unaccountable...  Who wouldn't be forced to repress anger (which is what depression is)... Call it mental illness, that is about 95% of the American populace today.  We are tired of being ripped off!  Especially by our own government.  

Now NIH (a government controlled/funded "authority" on mental health reports that all those who are angry at their government are being diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic!)

Think about this for a moment. The brain and mind of a person are that person's government. They direct his actions, and a whole lot more about his whole life. A person who is against his own personal government is often self-destructive, as well as being destructive towards the lives of other people. The general term describing this kind of person is "insane."

Sane people have found it to the advantage of both, the insane people, and the lives and welfare of society in general, to place the insane people into hospitals and asylums. This is done with the hope that they will get well, but if they can't be cured, at least to protect society from them.

There are a lot of problems in America. People are losing their homes, their jobs, their pensions, their general security, and much of their mental and physical well being. A tremendous amount of this loss is due to the Government. Like the government of an insane person that causes the insane person to become self-destructive, so our United States Government has become insanely self-destructive towards the nation.

After all, who controls the economy and the banking? Who controls the amounts of freedom that people have? Who controls the SWAT teams that get the address wrong? Isn't it the Government? So it is the Government that is going insane, and has been for a long time now.

It's way past time that the remaining sane people in America, do a lobotomy on that part of the Government that is making things worse for us all. Lobotomize those crazy people in Government, right out of Government if they will not follow the Constitution and their Oath of Office, thereby bringing sanity back to the nation.

Vote Ron Paul 2012, for a return to a sane America.
 

As a form of mental illness, anti-Government depression is prevalent -- Ivor E. Tower, M.D. Journal of Clinical Psychiatry. It is a published scientific finding – not mine. You see a lot of it in this website, particularly on this page. Hatred of Government is so intense that you hardly see any comment that does not start a statement of murder of the Government. Even a mental hemorrhoid is blamed on the State as corrupt, and the Government causes pimples because it is imagined as so hopelessly corrupt!

"It blocks the receptors critical for receiving glutamate's signals which quickly improves the brain cell's electrical flow. That in turn reduces depression, according to the NIMH."

To Nick Saorsa, Maybe Kim Dry, Larken Rose and PureTrust should be thankful to you for your advice as follows: "… also look up ibogaine. Another schedule 1 "drug" that breaks depression and cures addiction. Ketamine and ibogaine are both disassociative hallucinogens. I believe ketamine is not schedule 1, as it is an animal tranquilizer, but ibogaine has been determined to have no medical benefit, like marijuana."

I also tried to help them with the studies of the National Institute of Health on out-of-control hatred of Government as a form of mental illness. This is the Url to it: http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/info_schedule_battle/Anti_Government_Phobia.html.

You may also read my post at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Opinion/104588-2012-02-05-romney-romney-romney.htm "Romney! Romney! Romney! ... Kim Dry admitted she had been on drugs … Maybe Ketamine made her condition worst because it is a prescribed animal tranquilizer to calm down human nerves that run out of control, nerves that run like wild horse. I am not sure if her therapy includes Ketamine. Maybe you can comment on this.

No offense intended to anyone. I figure out that your comment on drugs to cure depression is important … it might be of some help.

 also look up ibogaine. Another schedule 1 "drug" that breaks depression and cures addiction. Ketamine and ibogaine are both disassociative hallucinogens. I believe ketamine is not schedule 1, as it is an animal tranquilizer, but ibogaine has been determined to have no medical benefit, like marijuana. Thanks DEA.