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Ron Paul - Mitt Romney deal?

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Comment by Ana Panot
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Are they jealous that we are "intellectually"endowed and they are not, although they are trying to show that they too are? Are they envious that in the eyes of the public we are pretty and they are ugly? Born pretty is not our fault, is it?

On record, I too can prove beyond reasonable doubt Ron Paul’s supporters and admirers are from the "lunatic fringe". For laughs I may not be consistently honest -- and even occasionally not quite truthful – but I am tricky and smart. If I can prove that supporters are from the "lunatic fringe", it means that I too am "intellectual", is it not?

One of Ron Paul’s ardent admirers does not only want the Federal Government destroyed, does not only want to shoot cops dead, does not only refuse to pay his income tax but also calls the IRS a "thief" and taxation, "robbery". He is a much-publicized character, a notorious tax evader … a genuine convicted tax felon. On record, his name is Larken Rose.

  

Comment by Conrad Krosky
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Suka presented concrete evidence proving beyond reasonable doubt that Ron Paul is a politician from the "lunatic fringe". I have doubted the New Hampshire newspaper before, i.e., describing Ron Paul and supporters as public characters coming from the "lunatic fringe" … but now no more.

Disprove that Ron Paul’s "ideals" and "solutions" are NOT that of a POLITICIAN from the "lunatic fringe". Review Suka’s detailed presentation and present your own evidence proving the contrary.

Don’t just yak-yak acid out of your mouth thrown at Suka and the rest like him just because they are intellectuals, honest and truthful. That does not prove they are wrong about Ron Paul, the POLTICIAN from the "lunatic fringe".

 
Comment by Ed Price
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Wow! I am amazed at the lengthy accuracy with which Suka just described JV - below!

Comment by Steve Duncan
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This is my offering to the public since I started making comments on this page. Some "commenters" are a great help to the reading public. JV and many others like him are good examples. They are intelligent and constructive critics. Don’t take it from me. Read their comments yourself, and be your own judge.

But there are also "commenters" that are far removed from reality … plain detractors, a nuisance to the public. They are a vain and vile group of destructive critics that have only one angry voice of contempt of Government. These are badmouths, a bunch of vicious name-callers whose IQ is so low it cannot be used to intelligently argue issues.

You too may notice as I do, that these destructive critics are so nasty and sadistic that they could never qualify as "constructive critics" by any stretch of the imagination. Because they are swearing and abusive, the public looked down at them as horribly abominable eyesores infecting the Web.

Together with Ron Paul and his "rabid" supporters, the New Hampshire newspaper described them as some kind of delusional or disturbed characters from the "lunatic fringe" Their intense hatred of Government is a form of "mental illness", according to the National Institute of Health.

Now these are proof that I and other constructive critics like JV are not just making this up when they honestly criticize Ron Paul. You can read them yourself, and be your own judge.

Take this comment from the "lunatic fringe" as an example: There is no area of Ron Paul's life that one can point a finger at and say that he was a bad person …Too off the point by miles.  Ron Paul is criticized not as a person but as a POLITICIAN from the "lunatic fringe".

There is always a big difference between delusion and reality. But if you are suffering this kind of "mental illness" that the NIH warned as pretty nasty and contagious, there is no way you can find the difference.

Another example from the same "commenter" showing he is not in touch with reality: It says that Ron Paul's ideals and solutions are bad, that they are unworkable, that they are foolish, etc.. But there never is any explanation why.

Here are the facts … reality: Ron Paul’s "ideals and solutions" are not only bad and foolish, but 100% delusional. Out of hate, his "ideals" is "liberty" and "freedom" to violate the law, and destroy the Government.

I do not need to dig up the files for you that show how he disparages the Government using seditious words, i.e., 911 was NOT the fault of Al Qaeda terrorists but of the U.S. Government. Al Qaeda need not destroy the U.S. Government – a U.S. Congressman from Texas is already doing it for them.

Ron Paul brought up his son Sen. Rand Paul with the same anti-Government "ideals". And to think that they get their bread and butter from the Government they look down with contempt, makes it difficult to find the right words to describe what kind of people are we dealing with.

Sen. Paul was recently detained in the Nashville airport for showing to the American public how to violate the law on national security. He refused to be security-screened that alarmed if not terrified airline passengers who were taking the same flight with him. Airport security has to be strict and forever vigilant in enforcing security laws for the safety of air travelers. In the airport, terrorists can’t violate our national security laws, but they don’t need to do anything. A Senator is already doing it for them.

Drinking unpasteurized raw milk makes people sick. People die of epidemic caused by bacteria -- Salmonella, E. Coli and Listeria. There is a law that prohibits drinking raw unpasteurized milk, and eating unpasteurized dairy products for the protection of the public.

But like a taunting angel from Hell, Ron Paul got his Media coverage by telling the farmers that it is their "liberty" and "freedom" to drink and eat whatever they want – a cute way of saying to them that it is okay to violate the law in the name of liberty and freedom. And there are more of this crap …more than anyone can count.

Another example of his "solution" to the Iran nuclear problem -- to let Iran do whatever they want, build their own nuclear arsenal in the name of liberty and freedom if they want to like what China and the nuclear powers of the Western world did, is not only delusional but dangerous. He wants to withdraw U.S. leadership in world affairs, and turn this mightiest and richest nation on the planet into a recluse …what kind of "solution" is that -- bring us all back to the cave?

And his "solution" to our economic problems – get rid of the central bank [abolish the Fed], abolish income tax, etc., oh, boy [!] describing it as "bad" is an understatement. But that’s an area that people from the "lunatic fringe" would hardly understand even if I discuss it with them, so I will not bring them there.

And you are saying that there is "no explanation" why his "ideals" and "solutions" are bad and foolish?

To anyone suffering a "mental illness" that NIH has identified, no amount of explanation will get through. That too, is reality. [For the interest of the reading public, this is a free public service feature from Suka.]

 
Comment by Anonymous
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I clicked on the video… just curious. I am positive that PureTrust’s comment accusing Ron Paul critics of "name-calling" is WILD. The word "doormat" attributed to Ron Paul, neither came from them nor Santorum. It came from Doug – supposed to be Ron Paul’s "brain" in the campaign trail, a campaign which many believed is an exercise in futility. This brain’s creativity in promoting the image of Ron Paul is a joke -- it left a lot to be desired.

 
Comment by Steve Duncan
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Now these are proof that I and other constructive critics like JV are not just making this up when they honestly criticize Ron Paul. You can read them yourself, and be your own judge.

Take this comment from the "lunatic fringe" as an example: There is no area of Ron Paul's life that one can point a finger at and say that he was a bad person …Too off the point by miles.  Ron Paul is criticized not as a person but as a POLITICIAN from the "lunatic fringe".

There is always a big difference between delusion and reality. But if you are suffering this kind of "mental illness" that the NIH warned as pretty nasty and contagious, there is no way you can find the difference.

Another example from the same "commenter" showing he is not in touch with reality: It says that Ron Paul's ideals and solutions are bad, that they are unworkable, that they are foolish, etc.. But there never is any explanation why.

Here are the facts … reality: Ron Paul’s "ideals and solutions" are not only bad and foolish, but 100% delusional. Out of hate, his "ideals" is "liberty" and "freedom" to violate the law, and destroy the Government.

I do not need to dig up the files for you that show how he disparages the Government using seditious words, i.e., 911 was NOT the fault of Al Qaeda terrorists but of the U.S. Government. Al Qaeda need not destroy the U.S. Government – a U.S. Congressman from Texas is already doing it for them.

Ron Paul brought up his son Sen. Rand Paul with the same anti-Government "ideals". And to think that they get their bread and butter from the Government they look down with contempt, makes it difficult to find the right words to describe what kind of people are we dealing with.

Sen. Paul was recently detained in the Nashville airport for showing to the American public how to violate the law on national security. He refused to be security-screened that alarmed if not terrified airline passengers who were taking the same flight with him. Airport security has to be strict and forever vigilant in enforcing security laws for the safety of air travelers. In the airport, terrorists can’t violate our national security laws, but they don’t need to do anything. A Senator is already doing it for them.

Drinking unpasteurized raw milk makes people sick. People die of epidemic caused by bacteria -- Salmonella, E. Coli and Listeria. There is a law that prohibits drinking raw unpasteurized milk, and eating unpasteurized dairy products for the protection of the public.

But like a taunting angel from Hell, Ron Paul got his Media coverage by telling the farmers that it is their "liberty" and "freedom" to drink and eat whatever they want – a cute way of saying to them that it is okay to violate the law in the name of liberty and freedom. And there are more of this crap …more than anyone can count.

Another example of his "solution" to the Iran nuclear problem -- to let Iran do whatever they want, build their own nuclear arsenal in the name of liberty and freedom if they want to like what China and the nuclear powers of the Western world did, is not only delusional but dangerous. He wants to withdraw U.S. leadership in world affairs, and turn this mightiest and richest nation on the planet into a recluse …what kind of "solution" is that -- bring us all back to the cave?

And his "solution" to our economic problems – get rid of the central bank [abolish the Fed], abolish income tax, etc., oh, boy [!] describing it as "bad" is an understatement. But that’s an area that people from the "lunatic fringe" would hardly understand even if I discuss it with them, so I will not bring them there.

And you are saying that there is "no explanation" why his "ideals" and "solutions" are bad and foolish?

To anyone suffering a "mental illness" that NIH has identified, no amount of explanation will get through. That too, is reality. [For the interest of the reading public, this is a free public service feature from Suka.]

Comment by Ed Price
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of comments in the Freedoms's Phoenix forum that attempt to discredit the man, Ron Paul? The same commenters seem to attempt to continually discredit Ron Paul's ideals, especially his solutions for bringing our nation out of crisis. Yet, nobody really attempts to discredit the other candidate potentials with similar ferocity.

This is quite comforting to me. Why? For two reasons.

1. Look at the personal discrediting of Ron Paul. It amounts to name calling. There is really nothing in Ron Paul's character, his history, his morals and ethics, in his whole life that is bad. There is no area of Ron Paul's life that one can point a finger at and say that he was a bad person in some way. It's all name-calling. And since it is only name-calling, it serves to build the man up rather than tear him down.

2. Look at the discrediting of Ron Paul's ideals and solutions. This part of the talk says one thing. It says that Ron Paul's ideals and solutions are bad, that they are unworkable, that they are foolish, etc.. But there never is any explanation why. There is never any of the mechanics involved, showing the processes of how the ideals and solutions might do damage. There is nothing that shows any flaws in the RP solutions. All that is ever said is that they are bad.

The point is, all that is left when you can't discredit the man or his ideals and solutions, is to name-call. And when people wake up to the fact of the name-calling that is being done, they start to realize that the name-callers are the ones that need to be discredited.

Once people see that name-callers are only name-callers, the reverse of the discrediting happens. The name-calling causes Ron Paul to receive more credit than he had originally.

Now, not knowing the name-callers personally, or what their agenda might be, I could see where some smart operators might be doing all this name-calling with the idea of making Ron Paul more popular. These folks might have intended, all along, to promote Ron Paul using the "backdoor" method: talk about him a lot, get people emotionally involved with him, and show them that there really is nothing against Ron Paul. And if there is nothing against him, everything must be in favor of him.

So I am comforted. Keep it up, folks. Keep on building Ron Paul.
 

Comment by Steve Duncan
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In this Ron Paul propaganda video, Ron Paul is projected as if he is a serious contender to getting nominated as the GOP official candidate for president. That will never happen – like the crow turning white, will never happen! [according to commentator Venancio Tan]. But in this scripted interview, there is an attempt to hide the fact that the aging Congressman from Texas is just a "nuisance bug" in the panel of candidates that Santorum reportedly enjoys to step on like a "doormat". The lackluster monotonous brain behind the Ron Paul campaign that treats the public like a bunch of nincompoops should have been fired long time ago as an embarrassment to this example of a boring anti-Government candidacy.

I join Panocha’s Ron Paul make-believe march to the White House showing how infantile is this idea in Ron Paul’s video campaign. A small group of "veterans" was herded to march before the camera: "Left, right, left …Stop the Fed …! Long live the Ron Paul Revolution! Haone, hatwo, hathree, left, right, left. Stop the Fed …! Long live the Ron Paul Revolution!"

Make no mistake. Vote NOT Ron Paul 2012.

 
Comment by Ernest Hancock
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"I am for Romney, but I might change my mind and go for Santorum – his reward for hatching this brilliant strategy. Santorum for President of the United States? Absolutely, we need a brain like that. Joseph Vanderville."

Ahhhhh,.. Never Mind. :) 

Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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Ron Paul is a "doormat" of Santorum -- Dog [excuse me, that's mispelled ... Doug, campaign manager of soon to drop out Ron Paul]. That's demotion from wallflower of the debate to doormat where Santorum kicks what he believes as Ron Paul dirt, off his feet everytime he steps on Ron Paul like a nuisance bug.

KISS OF DEATH ! It would be a Kiss of Death for Romney if he teams up with Ron Paul as his VP. If would be a Kiss in the Ass if he teams up with Ron Paul’s son Sen. Rand Paul as his VP.

I don’t think Romney is that stupid. Why would he team up with those two losers? I know people are scratching their head. They don’t get it. I do.

1. Notice carefully that only Romney can beat Santorum. Santorum has to make his move.

2. Don’t make a mistake: This media-hyped accusation of treacherous collaboration between Romney and Paul came from Santorum.

3. Santorum is accusing the two of joining forces behind his back to defeat his candidacy. Of course Santorum can tell that to the Marines, but not to me. He is pulling a brilliant strategy, killing two birds -- Romney and Paul – with one stone.

Consider the following:

1. Santorum is picturing Ron Paul as a weasel-dealer who like a hooker is selling himself to Romney for a price, just about the time that Ron Paul is quitting the presidential race. Ron Paul has nothing to lose. He is a perennial candidate for president for many years. Every presidential election year he is always a candidate for president, knowing that as an "unelectable" candidate he will never win, but somehow he always expects to get something out of it. So in the eyes of the public the weasel deal that Santorum is announcing has the appearance of "truth" …that is, that the accusation coming from Santorum that Ron Paul is conniving with Romney for a price is not a propaganda lie.

2. Santorum is pretty much aware that if Romney takes the bait he is dangling, and Romney teams up with Paul as his running mate, it is a kiss of death … it is the end of Romney. Santorum killed two birds with one stone.

In the event Romney smells something fishy and dumps Ron Paul as his VP, Rand Paul, the son, might as well be his VP. Sen. Rand Paul had made himself a "model" how to violate the law on national security in the name of "liberty" and "freedom". He has been "detained" in the Nashville airport for refusing to go through security screening. No airline passenger would take the same flight with anyone who refused to be cleared by airport security. And that was what exactly terrorists want. What the terrorists cannot do, Sen. Paul is doing for them.

The "liberty" and "freedom" that radical Sen. Paul and his father are mouthing in public are no different from that of the terrorists’ liberty to kill and freedom to destroy us.

If I were one of the airline passengers about to board the airplane threatened by a co-passenger – a Senator -- who refused to be cleared by airport security … Sen. Ran Paul for Vice President in Romney’s ticket? That would be a kiss in the ass.

This is an important memo to Romney: The father for VP – kiss of death. The son for VP – kiss in ….

I am for Romney, but I might change my mind and go for Santorum – his reward for hatching this brilliant strategy. Santorum for President of the United States? Absolutely, we need a brain like that. Joseph Vanderville.

 

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