Let's correct this false notion!

The old notion that earth is flat and that voyagers navigating their sailboats or ocean-going schooners will fall over the edge is not the correct information that needs to be glorified or even promoted in reputable websites like ours. Instead, writings about these kind of notions, needs to be scrutinized as Ernie suggested, so that they stand corrected.

In other words, the information you get from this immigration and population beholder, is not correct or totally distorted.

I will show you why. I will answer Frostytution’s latest comment [Entered on: 2010-10-24 20:51:44] here written in black text, with my response in blue for the sake of providing our readers with the correct information they need. This is a little bit longer than usual, but it is so important … bear with me. Legend: FW = Frosty; Baka = Bakadude.

FW: First of all, thank you Ernie for your stand against shallow attacks by those that fail to present the facts and science. Baka: Correction … It is a lie. Ernie did not make a stand against what Frostytution imagined as "shallow attacks" of his immigration and population fear-mongering. The truth: Ernie was re-stating FP.com’s original EDITORIAL POLICY in response to my comment. His "thank you Ernie" is pretentious, misdirected, and misleading … to insinuate an impression that Ernie was defending him in public. No way, Jose. In the previous debate, Ernie was the first critic in this site to expose Frostytution’s fantasy. I heard that Frostytution regretted that he tangled with Ernie. It opened Pandora’s Box, putting Frostytution’s written works under deeper public scrutiny and when scrutinized, his works did not pass or earn approval, hence this tsunami of criticisms of this man, who in fact turned out to be generations removed from reality!

Baka: Frostytution mentioned attacks "by those that fail to present the facts and science" [???] You must be kidding me. It was "facts and science" that exposed this guy’s flight of the imagination that the world will end due to what he fantasized as immigration and population explosions, for Pete’s sake! Read what Bakadude wrote.

FW: Emotions and name calling won't get them anywhere. 　Baka: When Bakadude disagreed with Frostytution, he called Bakadude -- the man from the academe with multi-degree certificates or diplomas of higher/advance education in graduate school’s doctorate level of learning -- "ignorant", "innumerate" … it is this sly weasel, not Bakadude, who started the spate of name calling when he turned emotional because many learned critics at Freedom Forum neither agreed to nor endorsed approval of his hallucinating nightmare that America will self-destroy when 100 million more immigrants are added, etc.

FW: Again, some cannot work simple math known as the 'exponential equation'. Baka: Frostytution’s knowledge of Math cannot rise beyond the level of that of kindergarten. Mathematical logic is a higher form of Math. This arrogant "teacher" was tested and found negative of knowledge of mathematical logic used in calculating population expansion or changes of growth rates… ignorant or brain-zero.

FW: Additionally, my work is not regurgitated, but in fact, I research and write those pieces carefully and with scientific support documents.　Baka: This is a blatant lie. His works published in this site are more than 100% regurgitated. Read several of them in FP.com, republished twice or thrice, word for word, titles included. By lying, he is taking us all for granted, erroneously believing – he is not in touch with reality – that his lies can go through without being detected. That’s what I mean when he insults the intelligence of the public, and my goodness [!] he does not even know that he was doing it. Also, because he conducts research when he writes, it does not means that critics of his writings do not conduct research of their own too when they negate or belie the falsehood of his imagined reality – his fixation that the world is going to bust due to human procreation! He was not in the real world when he proudly declared this no-brainer.

FW: I work with some of the finest minds in the 21st century in Dr. Bartlett, Dr. Tainter, Dr. Hardin, Dr. Catton, Gov. Lamm, Paul Ehrlich and dozens of others. Baka: This is delusion of grandeur! Although this is false [using these people’s writings as reference does not mean that he "worked" with them … this could be a psychological condition!] But he can work even with the Devil and this scare-mongering tactic that he is writing about will never change to his advantage at all.

FW: My work will become self-evident within 25 years as we allow our population to add another 100 million.　Baka: Still a false piety in the same delusion of grandeur to save the world. In 25 years, it will become self-evident that what this guy is writing about today is a hoax, similar to what Flat Earth writers were saying then that the world was flat when it was not – it is round -- for heaven’s sake!

FW: Numbers don't lie! Baka: Oh, yes they do. Statistics too. FW: We are overpopulated in the USA … Baka: This is offensive, not only derogatory to USA but it is a despicable lie. Only dolts that insult our intelligence would say that the United States is "overpopulated". In his freaking imagination, yes, the United States is "overpopulated". Help! For instance, California’s Death Valley that extends beyond the horizon, and the empty, long-drawn-out desert of Nevada are overcrowded. Maybe to him, there is too much magic in Las Vegas that seduced a fertile mind … too many illusions and illusionists that can influence one’s imaginative writings. FW: [W]e exceed our carrying capacity today as we import 70 percent of our oil … Baka: We are not importing 70% oil all the time! If our oil reserve is low at any given time of the year, it does not mean that we are "overpopulated" at that given time of the year … tell that story to the Marines. We are NOT your retarded audience who listens to this bedtime story.

FW: Some people cannot think past their noses.　Baka: Speak for yourself. Nose elongates when one starts lying. FW: I will educate and speak up for our civilization in spite of　slow-learners that remind me of Galileo's battle with the same.　Baka: This education you are talking about should start from you. You cannot speak for civilization when you do not start educating yourself first. Don’t even start comparing yourself to Galileo and besmirch or damage his reputation. You are no Galileo by any stretch of the imagination. Besides, Galileo’s fight for recognition was legit, yours is not! Yours is an imaginary fight of a delirious mind far removed from reality.

To sum up in comparison, sooner or later you will wake up say in 25 years or less, and will be shocked to find out and learn for yourself if you are still alive, that the earth is round … Virginia, Earth is not flat …!

Besides, in 25 years, the United States will still be there; it will not terminate because of added immigration or population. So is this world we live in. Our Planet Earth is 4.6 billion years old. One more billion years or two billion years more, you will not occupy as much space as you are now – you will just be a particle in the dust or a flotsum in the wind or not even a blush in the existing memory of any living things – while Earth will remain as it is and where it is right now; it will not implode and disappear from the Universe or vanish from our Galaxy because of immigration and population explosions – impossible! Get that?

You may create a blockbuster movie out of your fear about Earth’s demise due to immigration and population overload – but Virginia, you are neither one of those characters in Disneyland, nor one of those character fictionists of Hollywood that make their $millions out of fiction stories as in James Cameron’s Avatar or Filmmaker Roland Emmerich’s latest end of the world thriller "2012".

Let’s be real, for God’s sake!

Bakadude