Sen. Paul indicated he spoke to the president recently following Saturday night's military celebration.

"I talked to the president last evening after the parade, and we're trying to get to a better place in our conversations. I've let him know that I'm not an absolute no. I can be a yes," Paul told host Kristen Welker.

"I like the tax cuts. I actually agree with Art Laffer and the supply siders that a lot of times we cut rates, we actually get more revenue, so I don't have as much trouble with the tax cuts."

Paul added, "I think there should be more spending cuts, but if they want my vote, they'll have to negotiate, because I don't want to vote to raise the debt ceiling $5 trillion. Congress is awful with money, and so you should give them a more restricted credit line, not an expansive one."

He continued: "Yes, the debt ceiling has to go up, but what I've said is it ought to go up three months at a time, and then we should have a renewed debate about the debt. We shouldn't put it up $5 trillion and wait two years, go through another election cycle and be almost towards the end of the Trump administration and say, 'Oh, whoops, we have added a bunch of debt.' We should have done better. I think we should keep talking about it."

Asked what it would take to make him vote yes, Paul responded that the debt ceiling should be put to a separate vote.

"Separate out the debt ceiling and have a separate vote on it, and I won't be deciding vote on this. This is what I tell my supporters…If I am the deciding vote, they'll negotiate. If I'm not, they won't," the Kentucky senator answered.

"So far, they've been sending their attack dogs after me, and that's not a great persuasion technique," he noted. "I will negotiate if they come to me, but they have to be willing to negotiate on the debt ceiling because I'm conservative. I'm not going to no longer be conservative just because the president wants me to vote for something."

News that Paul could vote yes if the debt ceiling issue is addressed comes as the Big Beautiful Bill faces staunch opposition from lawmakers concerned over its massive spending and controversial provisions, including one banning local municipalities from passing measures restricting artificial intelligence.

President Trump has insisted the bill would fulfill much of his promised Make America Great Again agenda, including eliminating taxes on tips and overtime, funding border security and the border wall, and repealing Biden-era green energy tax credits.