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Comment by Powell Gammill
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Frosty, you are winning the war.  Immigration is dwindling.  There are no jobs.  Welfare is withering from lack of funding and soon inflation.  Obamacare will equalize our healthcare with that of the other third world countries.  Nobody flocks to an impoverished area...just ask Detroit.  No motive to come.  Every reason to leave.  Just wait until the trustworthiness of our banks equals that of the banana republics and those illegals will pull out their cash too.  So chill, you've won.


Comment by Ross Wolf
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Never mind increasingly Americans are out of work. Obama just authorized 80,000 immigrants from Muslim Countries to move to America. Despite millions of unemployed Americans having to compete with 12 million illegal immigrants for employment, Obama won’t significantly act, to stop the gushing flow of Mexicans that 24/7 illegally enter the U.S.

The Obama administration last summer took legal steps to prevent an Arizona illegal immigration law taking affect that would criminally charge employers that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Leftists consider it collateral damage that illegal immigrants take Americans’ jobs. The longer Obama can keep the Mexican border open, millions more illegal immigrants will pour into America to financially bleed U.S. Taxpayers. Most Americans find it unbelievable the Obama administration filed a suit to stop Arizona’s illegal immigration bill SB 1070. But it is believable. Leftists move on democracies when they are in civil / economic chaos. Obama’s Socialist/Marxist constituency intend to use millions of illegal immigrants to force unaffordable public services on States and federal government, overwhelm public resources, causing economic chaos. If Obama gives amnesty to 15-million illegal immigrants, states to forestall economic collapse—may have to hugely raise Citizens’ state taxes; ironically that would feed leftist mandates that Citizens’ share their wealth with the masses. Increasingly it appears Obama intends to force a form of Marxist/socialism on Americans—even if that means destroying the U.S. economy, certainly the Constitution.

If Obama succeeds in spending America into bankruptcy and depression, it is foreseeable millions of disparate Americans might accept, even welcome a hybrid form of Marxist/socialism. Obama and his Marxist associates appear openly, building a "Fifth Column" of extreme leftists" in labor, pro-illegal immigration, socialists and communists organizations and other radicals that appear intended to destroy America economically and spiritually.  


Comment by Frosty Wooldridge
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Hi Gammill,

 Thanks for the welcome back this summer! Heck of a great ride across America!  Thank you.  Truly, I would love to sit back and write several new books this winter instead of trying to save this civilization as to immigration and overpopulation.  I am blown away that a few readers just do not understand our predicament as to adding 100 million more to this country.  That one dude somehow needs to fight the facts like the Pope fought Galileo, just to prove he's right, when I absolutely know he's completely out of touch when it comes to population.  Nonetheless, I'll keep writing, speaking on radio and TV, and yes, with this coming election, we're going to see some change.  I'd love Tancredo to win in CO, which would give more governors the courage to act like Jan Brewer!  Thanks again! We'll keep on keeping on,  Frosty


Comment by Frosty Wooldridge
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Powell,

 Just a quick request please. Send me your POB so I can send you a few pieces of information that I think you would appreciate. Thanks, Frosty   frostyw@juno.com


Comment by Justen Robertson
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This is a self-solving problem. As the carrying capacity of a region is exceeded by its human population its attractiveness for immigrants diminishes. The U.S. historically attracted many immigrants because its carrying capacity was vast - lots of land, not a lot of people, proportionately vastly greater infrastructure and technology acting as a multiplier on the capacity of the land. That is simply no longer the case. Infrastructure on every continent except arguably Africa is comparable to the U.S., productivity meets or exceeds it, and wealth disparity is lower. There is no disaster around the corner - or at least, there is, but immigration is not a cause, it's a symptom of disparity.

The carrying capacity of the U.S. vs. is on the decline for a large variety of reasons, but the looser the borders - or more directly, the easier it is to emigrate and immigrate from region to region and in and out of the country - the more quickly and naturally populations will shift to adapt to the new environment. Pretty soon American nationalists are not going to be bitching that too many people want in. They're going to be bitching that they can't get out, once they realize that the fascist U.S. government is approaching the final stages of imperial collapse and the life of wealth and luxury they assumed was their birthright is overtaken by collapsing infrastructure and scorched earth. The "illegals" are going to stroll out with greater ease than they strolled in while the registered slaves are finding nobody wants them and, in all likelihood, they're not allowed by the present regime to leave.


Comment by Anonymous
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 All the comments below so far, demonstrate the Law of Diminishing Return. Justen: This is a self-solving problem. As the carrying capacity of a region is exceeded by its human population its attractiveness for immigrants diminishes. There you are FW.

When there is a riot in the street, it does mean that the country is overpopulated. We have riots in the country for centuries caused by so many reasons. Not one of them is lack of space due to population overload.

Obama’s immigration and economic foul ups may lead the country to civil war and damage the nation, but this has nothing to do with population overload that Frostytution’s delusion is pointing out that would end the world and with it banished America to oblivion. When Obama succeeds in turning this country into a socialist-fascist polity, America will become less attractive … most likely the number of immigrants will dwindle to nil if not zero, probably only those coming from socialist and communist countries would only be ones attracted to come over. What we have is population increase neutralized under the Law of Diminishing Return.

Gammill’s comment is interesting when he said Frosty was "winning the warThere are no jobs. Welfare is withering from lack of funding and soon inflation… America was becoming a third world country. No motive to come. Every reason to leave …, etc." There you are in Gammill’s eyes – America becomes unattractive. Forget about population overload. Frostytution just LOST HIS WAR against population surplus that America according to him would be unable to feed.

In short, contrary to what Frosty had frostytituted, America is not going to implode from within. The delusional vision of our save-the-world hero was totally discredited for lack of immigrants that were turned off because America is resource-wise no longer ovulating … no longer a fertile soil to seduce and take advantage of and raise a family. In fact according to Gammill, those who are already here "have every reason to leave."

Telling Frosty that he was winning his war was an ego-massaging gesture after his overpopulation fantasy was hurt by adverse criticisms. It seems "reverse psychology" was applied when Frosty was told he was winning the war, when in fact he was losing his overpopulation war. And I was shock to notice that the guy took the bait. In fact besides thanking Gammill profusely, he asked for his POB to send more of his recycled info materials as a gesture of thanks.

He still didn’t get it!

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