Dying for a Lie
Larken RoseThe more popular a lie, and the more destructive a lie, the more important it is to expose the lie. Bring on the hate mail for this one.
The more popular a lie, and the more destructive a lie, the more important it is to expose the lie. Bring on the hate mail for this one.

No less authority than the late Major General Smedley Butler of the U.S. Marine Corps said "War Is A Racket". Having served during the Viet Nam War in vain, and having learned that it was entered into under false pretense, I have concluded that what is bandied about as patriotism is in reality a form of idolatry. This false worship of the state to the detriment of the individual because of other men's greed and their need for controlling others plays on the need of people to give and serve and be a part of something bigger than themselves. That is why this phenomenon is so tragic. Thanks Mr. Rose for the courage to speak truth even though many may not want to hear it.
First, to Mr. Hall, thank you so much for your comment. The fact that people like you, the folks at IVAW, and others are identifying and pointing out the lie gives me hope. (Some folks think a civilian like myself has no business saying anything about it.) Since you mentioned him, I thought I'd quick quote some comments from Smedley Butler, who I also quote in "The Most Dangerous Superstition." This is from a man who, in his day, was the most decorated U.S. Marine in history. Here is some of what he had to say:
Smedley Butler:
Ah, Larken! You are so right about wars based on lies! I too grieve for the lives lost for those lies.
There is just one important detail that I'm surprised you didn't mention - and that is the truth of why wars are fought. I've studied this question for many years - and have reached one simple overarching conclusion. Without exception, every war ever fought, anywhere, was fought for control of someone's resources. Oil, gas, minerals, water, arable land, grazing land, timber, seaport access, fertile women, and slaves all qualify as resources over which wars have been fought!
And of course it's never the poor slobs on the battlegrounds that profit from the acquisition of those resources - it is, as you've so eloquently said, the psychopathic megalomaniacs (who own the armies) who mainly reap the rewards - if rewards there be. As much as humanity has evolved technologically, our social evolution hasn't progressed significantly in at least 8,000 years.
For a clue or two about how our social evolution might be accelerated, visit http://titanians.org .
Thank you for this very well written article Mr. Rose. It brings up some interesting points. How do you tell those who reject truth (sometimes violently) because they do not want to hear it, they do not wish to be awakened from thier lifelong trance? I was one of them once, sleep walking through life in the same trance, as most people who are awake now were at onme time. Therefore, it's not difficult understand why people don't want to wake up. It turns the world on it's head. Everything in your life must be re-evaluated and the lies discarded and if one has virtues, it will require that the individual take some sort of action. A complete reset of one's life. As disturbing as this is it can also be a blessing to those who choose to not remain silent but giving thier life meaning and purpose and discovering hidden gifts and talents within oneself. This is not a group thing and usually leads to a loner existance as old friends and even family members become alienated - but it also brings out an inner strength and an independence. It is a struggle, a life test, but one that I believe we are supposed to be on. We have to persevere. There is no choice really, as inside ourselves we know that we can never go back to the way things were. We cannot unlearn what we have learned, but that exactly what others whom we try to awaken will often ask us to do. Instead of listening, they simply repeat, playback the recycled collectivist propaganda, aka lies, in order to "enlighten us". If we actually did, that is reverse evolution. What we are talking about here is not a difference of opinions between those who know and those who do not, but different realities. On the one hand we have an artificial reality within which most of the worlds population is trapped. Made possible through a lifetime of indoctrination and propaganda. And on the other hand we have the true reality in which we ALL live. This is why it is so difficult to break through to someone, it's a clashing of realities. To many we might as well be an alien talking in a dialect never used on this planet. I know I feel like an alien in this place now. Over the 4th of July holiday and lately with all the wars we see the flags coming out like rabbits multiplying. We see the bumber stickers for our troops overseas. And this saddens me too, as I know how these symbols are used against us. People will say "we don't love our country, or our freedom, or don't support our troops". But they speak out of ignorance not understanding what is really going on. I also have been to national cemeteries and I too have shed tears for the men and women whom I've never met. It is tragedy of the highest order that these brave souls, there lives are used and thrown away so that a few evil criminals get more power and control. I agree with Mr. Rose we cannot just do nothing, if we know it is our responsibility to make our world a better place - whatever it takes.
Good to see that there are others here on board with Larken, Smedley Butler, and Liberty. You would not know it from most vantage points.
You're absolutely right Cronus: In the words of the late professor Jacob Bronowski, "War is a highly organized and co-operative form of theft."
To paraphrase the novelist F. Paul wilson: They jerk young men out of their lives, put guns in their hands and send them off to kill other young men who have been jerked out of their lives and had guns placed in THEIR hands. While these young men huddle shivering in their foxholes hoping they'll live to see the next sunrise, the people who cause all the problems; the politicians, generals, chiefs, mullahs, and tribal elders, sit back in their comfortable digs and move their chess pieces around.
I agree wholeheartedly with your article. However you ignore the human factor that if attacked; self preservation sets in and one defends themselves most often. I paticurally agree since WW-II. However until mankind has progressed or evovled to the point that automatice mental telepathy occurs we will have palnned decit and evil. Oldhobe
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Fantastic article :-)
Larken,
A voice of sanity in the wilderness. Imagine that, an American who has the balls to say something that is universally known, albeit politically incorrect. I guess the brainwashing hasn't worked on you, it sure has on everyone else. Why are Americans so afraid to talk about something we all know is true? Why can't Americans stand up for what they know is right and just? Must be a pathetic bunch of whining crybabies who are afraid of their own shadows. Boo!
"It is bad enough that many will perish believing the BIG lie, but the real tragedy are those who, have, are now, and will continue to do so, defending the BIG lie." Stupidamerkin
Nice to see you're still givin' them hell, lighting those brush fires of the mind.
The one hope for our failing currency and economic systems is that it will pause the conveyor-belt long enough for people to take a step back and examine our road to destruction.
I just wasted an hour responding to one of your "articles".
When I tried to send it, I was told that my address and name were wrong - bullshit!!!!!!
My name and address certainly didn't change while I was wasting my life in an attempt to add a little bit of information to what Is usually little more than unresoned thought and petty opinion, based on disinformation and dellusion.
I'm done!
Mr. Jackson, just taking a wild guess here, but based on your tone, I'm thinking you were about to give a vehement pro-military response. I really wish your thoughts hadn't been eaten by a technical glitch, even if I would have completely disagreed with them. It's a little ironic that a computer spaz-out seems to have "censored" you from voicing what I assume were going to be pro-authoritarian sentiments. Be thankful that unpredictable computers is all you're up against. Some of us, including myself, have been forcibly silenced by state mercenaries. You lost and hour due to a technical glitch. I lost a year due to fascist thugs. But afterward, I came back and kept saying what I think. I invite you to do the same.
Comment by: Dayton Herron (#42835)
Entered on: 2011-07-14 17:59:58
I agree wholeheartedly with your article. However you ignore the human factor that if attacked; self preservation sets in and one defends themselves most often. I paticurally agree since WW-II. However until mankind has progressed or evovled to the point that automatice mental telepathy occurs we will have palnned decit and evil. Oldhobe
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Mr. Herron,
You need to review your government school learned history. We agressed upon Japan long before they attacked us. And we became allies with the soviets who murdered 4 times as many people as Hilter did and then turned over Eastern Europe to them to be enslaved. How was any of this rightous or a victory?
Larken, Thank you for posting your views on the insanity of the American people. I am one of those men of my generation that volunteered to "work" for the US Navy during the so-called Viet Nam "War". We were told we "served our country". What a bunch of B.S. Over 58,000 men and women of my generation died for the liars, cheats, and whores from Corporate Washington DC. I was a brain-washed young man in those days believing the lies spewed to all of us Americans from TPTB. It took me just a few short years after I was discharged in 1967 to figure it out. The Vietnamese people had done nothing to me, my family, neighbors, or anyone else in America yet hundreds of thousands of my generation took part in the slaughter of thousands and thousands of Vietnam people. Insanity reigned then as it does now. Most of the American people are brainwashed to believe "the big lie". It is so sad. Don't Quit. Keep it Up. Keep telling the Truth. Regards, James CarlsonIts nice to see the acceptence of Mr. Rose's article. Front page of Freedoms Phoenix is pretty good. Of course us Vietnam Vets have been trying to say the same thing for 40 plus years now. Old news to us - good to seee others finally waking up. Good work Larken. Doc
Having been part of a service family for 20 +years, having had sons in the service..I fully agree with you Larken , truth is hard on the deluded !
George Mason : As Nations cannot be rewarded or receive punishment in the next world, so they MUST be in this. By an inevitable chain of causes & events Providence punishes national sins with national calamities ! Our war and murder lust has earned US many calamities...such as TSA, DHS, all reincarnations of the brown shirt Gestapo.....so much more effective than locust :(Mr. Rose,
Everything you said in the above article is true, but I'd like to add one more thing: We should think of not just those who were killed in all those stupid wars, but the many more who were seriously wounded and crippled for life.
According to the Veterans Administration, my father was 300 percent disabled in World War II.
That's right, the VA added up his "disabilities" and the total came to 300 percent -- loss of "this" muscle group ... 30 percent; another muscle group ... 30 percent, another muscle group ... 40 percent, still one more muscle group ... 50 percent. Then there's a crushed skull and resulting brain damage for another 50 percent and finally total blindness -- which brings the total up to 300 percent.
Politicians and their campaign contributors get all the profit (and war is extremely profitable) -- and the "glory" if you could call it that -- while it's up to the rest of us to do the paying, the bleeding, and the dying.
An extremely well written article . . . thank you.
While war probably isn't the answer for every conflict I fail to see your rationale on why it should never be used. Go ask a South Korean how they feel about the Korean war. Without the U.S. intervention and occupation they would be under the communist rule of North Korea or Japan. I also agree the war in Iraq started with bad info but is it a lie that Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of innocent people in the 80s? I'd rather be on the side of the country that has the balls to control the world. Time has shown that the peace loving people get left behind and dominated by the ones who effectively dominate the actions of other nations.
Well Mr. Mott,
Balls? Or stupidity?
Even a quick look at history will show you that every country that has tried to control the world (although not one has actually succeeded in doing it) has gone bankrupt in the attempt -- just as the United States is doing right at this moment.
I just came across your article. To see someone speak the truth is rare indeed. Dying for peace has never brought about peace and never will. At the end of the day wars are not about establishing peace or protecting freedom or whatever nonsense we're told. It's all about taking what is not yours to take.