Give them a fake.

Hi Larken, this what Bob Podolsky calls the B.O.R.G. an acronym of Banks and Big Business, Organized Religion and Government.  These are the institutions that most people run to solve their problems, not realizing these are the institutions that CREATE the problems in the first place.  These institutions work together to with masters at the heads of them to corral the populace into believing they are separate institutions, similar to the illusion of the separation between republicans and democrats.   I encourage you to check out Titanians where he goes into this in more detail

Kim Dyer here:  Great exposure, Larken.  We can all thank George Bush's precursors to 9/11 to take our privacies-corporate/monopoly information-sharing away and allow this garbage to happen.  Even listing a car today, because paperless, controls and limits certain in-demand vehicles and customers for a bigger scam/monopoly.  I listed two vehicles, highly sought after and the ratio of calls from dealer to private party is about 25:1, respectively.  Oh, but I could thank Jason Shelton 4409 for suggesting that HE could sell my car for $1,500 less than the racket-dealership offered in same-day cash!...  After my car was returned (he drove it for three months for free) with defective scratched/sun-faded headlights that don't seem to match the preserved-garaged in CA and AZ headlights....  He worked in that industry-known for money-laundering...  These violations occurred while he was sleeping in my BED and promoting himself to do work in my home that he knew that I needed done-his side-kick predator, Renee, needed to be paid back for loans to him... she promoted this!  Then sent pics of her boobs to him supposedly right after our first date... and trying to make me believe through a third party that she is his mother?  Sounds like discrediting campaign to me.  And I was the target "idiot"  who let these people into my life, in good faith.  Hoping to expose by working together  that the real goal of the roadway cameras is microchip implantation (I made calls as an assignee recruit in 1998).  Camerafraud.com has ignored each and every request I have made to communicate and work together.  Jason Shelton 4409 even went out of his way to fabricate a discrediting campaign.  Hmmm... sounds just like the same fake opposition that we are told lies in the pendulum swinging fake left to right, keeping us lost in a choice between two sides, pitting us all against each other in a morass of minutiae. 

In this "paperless" BS scam of a system today under the guise of living "green" I have no proof of what is being shown and to whom on the Kelly Blue Book site postings, which allows gov controlled or other corporate predators to fleece your car values, your ability sell your vehicle, etc.  Food for thought:  Look up the lyrics to "Joy to the World"... doesn't it talk about the cars and the bars?  And "[basically screwing] you"... passive aggressive RICO that Kennedy 1961 laws passed to protect us from Jew-wish Racketeering.  Research Meyer Lansky and Jack Otto/Khazarian Empire.  Remember, Illuminati "Jews"-Kings men of Vatican/Crown alliance control Hollywood, the media news, publishing and Music industry.  AshkeNAZI so-called "jews" are hostages to the vatican, willingly I believe for profit and also should fear as humanitarian-betraying Kings men.  They are primary reason why we are being pushed and forced (with monetary violence) towards a Zionist New World Order.  Crazy stuff.  Many interesting last names are found when you research Jewish Racketeering that followed the colonizing of Mormon Church on their trail to Utah (where you taxes are gathered).  Not an accident that money-laundering tax-evading Nevada laws were founded by Mormons and these so-called "Jews" of Khazarian descent (research Jack Otto)... Kings men.  I would bet all that I own today that the Black Nobility and Vatican Pharisees wrote the Book of Mormon.   Huge multi-billion dollar "pseudo-masonic" multi-lingual (missionary-spying private-CIA recruiting) cult one of their hugest tools for Nazi NWO Zionism.    Wake up people, we are bees, they are Winnie the Pooh the Gangsta.... LOL.

Hey, your Social Security Number is issued to you to identify you who you are when you transact business with private a enterprise dealing with the public or with the Government.

Corporate entrepreneurs who run a worldwide business like Amazon, has the right to identify you before you can defraud them. They need to verify your identity by requiring your SSN to see to it that you are not a swindler or a con artist. That business policy requirement has nothing to do with whether or not the Government requires you to show your SSN to Amazon. The Government requires the Amazon people to show IDs of the clients it is transacting business with, so that it can go after Amazon in case of tax fraud or tax evasion. If you gave your SSN to them and then they didn’t use it to identity you in a business transaction but instead used it for the purpose of swindling you, that’s a different ballgame. This happens, although rarely, but if happens, you don’t take the law into your hand and shoot them dead. You have to rely on our agents of the law to catch them and bring them to justice. You have to trust our justice system too as you always have your recourse in law … you have to, rather than do a Timothy McVeigh or a Jared Loughner spectacle and like them end up dead with such public contempt and ignominious notoriety.

Likewise, when you transact business with the Government, say with the IRS, they require your PIN ID or SSN, so that if you are a tax evader or a tax defrauder, they can collar you and haul you to jail.

Like what you preach, if you like to shoot it out with them as an expression of your liberty and freedom to violate the Internal Revenue Code because as a tax protester you believe that taxation is "thievery" [you profess in your writings and videos that the Government is stealing your money through taxation], then the cops you hated the most will simply gun you down. You never outgun them. By getting rid of you in that way, I have no doubt that law-abiding Americans will be thankful because your tribe won’t have a chance to multiply or increase and only to cause them more trouble.

In short, your problem is so simple even simpletons could solve it. If you really don’t want to give your SSN – don’t transact business with the Government or with anyone who requires it, or don’t give your Driver’s ID if you really imagined that it could be used in a government surveillance against you. Keep your paranoia to yourself.

But if you choose not to transact business with any of them, for Christ’s sake – don’t whine! You can keep your self-serving lecture to yourself. You need it most than anyone else.

@Venacio Tan:  Kim Dyer here.  NO, you are wrong.  Nevada S corporations allow for NO SOCIAL SECURITY IDENTIFICATION, which means that YOU CAN LIE about your involvement as the TRUE PERSON who filed and benefits (crooked money laundering even CIA lawyers participate-including my ex) AND WIN-using foreign banks and trust jurisdictions in a second and third country, AND NO ONE CAN PROVE IT (that you are the same person).  The Zionist New World Order designed it that way.  If that has changed, I doubt it.  I learned this while divorcing a divorce lawyer.  He started 3 Nevada corporations known during our divorce within 24 hours of causing false arrests and trumped up charges in the Tempe corporate municipal system, for which I allege he has personal interest (allied with Phillips & Lyon/Phillips & Associates-dissolved and now going by Phillips law center), with the concealed aid of a Russian AshkeNAZI Jewish fake best-friend who I am told was sleeping with him through out our marriage and divorce, she has since worked out of his property management companies and legal services (business non-disclosed during our marriage).   These are counterfeit Jews of Khazarian descent that are giving rise to NAZI regime profiteering from their proliferation of problem/reaction/solution politics and profiteering.  It goes up to the Royal Crown/Vatican alliance.  RICO applies.  Research Kennedy's passing of 1961 RICO protections-racketeering.

@ Venacio Tan, who are you?  I don't buy any of it.  Amazon wants it BOTH WAYS.  It doesn't work that way.

I agree to pay for something you should not be required to submit a SSN But to accept payments I have always known that to be a requirement. I don't use Amazon because I like having my own merchant account with www.merchantinc.com but if I did use them I would not provide it.