Somewhere near the beginning of Gene's hour with Ernie, Gene makes slight mention of the most important part of the whole interview. This is getting rid of your SSN (Social Security Number).

The interview seems to be pointed at something else. It sounds like the guy who Gene is working with is fighting the IRS while keeping his SSN.

The thing to do is to rid yourself of the SSN. If you don't, you may need a whole bunch of legal knowledge and understanding to keep you out of adverse clutches of SSN law.