While many on the right see Tucker Carlson as a slam-dunk VP candidate for Donald Trump in 2024, Tucker - who we suspect wants nothing to do with the swamp as he grows his new empire - has different ideas.

"I kind of like Vivek," the former Fox News host told an audience at Turning Point USA's AmericaFest event, referring to Vivek Ramaswamy. "Everyone beats up on Vivek for being 'he's a phony' and all this stuff."

"I've covered a lot of campaigns going back to 1992 and I've noticed this in many candidates and I noticed it in him – the process of running for president and speaking three times a day and having people throw hostile questions in your faces causes you to change – they all change during these campaigns for real, inside," Carlson continued. "And I feel like Vivek's positions have gotten much more sincere since the beginning of this."