The discussion centered on their view that the event reflects an ongoing "color revolution" directed by figures they named as former President Barack Obama and former CIA Director John Brennan.

Flynn said his reaction to the shooter's background immediately raised concerns for him.

"My first thing was, when I heard about where this guy came from, I was like, Oh my God, this guy was this isn't a one off. This isn't a lone wolf. This is an intentional design to start a basically an internal, physical component of what I call this color revolution. And this is just one among many that I think that we're we should expect to see."

Bannon pressed Flynn on who he believes is directing the effort.

"You're saying the date was chosen, or this guy was was used for color revolution, one, tell the audience, what do you mean by that, and who's in charge? Who? Who's draw in your best thinking, who's driving this color revolution against the people and the sovereignty of the United States?"

Flynn pointed to events that he said trace back to the Obama administration.

"Yeah, I think that right now, and we have to really take a hard look at what happened all the way back to 2016 under Obama. And I think that Obama is still in the mix, mix here. I think the operational commander on the battlefield here in the United States of America is John Brennan. I just believe that. I mean, that's my gut."

He said the effort involves what he called an international coalition.

"I call it the Axis of Resistance. The Axis of Resistance essentially consists of communists, both that are emanating from the CCPs control, but also communists inside of our country."

Flynn referenced voting patterns in Congress as an example and said foreign and domestic groups are working in tandem.

He expanded the list of groups he believes are part of the structure.

"So you got communism, you've got Islamism, you've got you've got these Narco cartels, these these terrorist groups that are also part of this. It's not just Hamas and Hezbollah, it's FARC and it's the cartel Del Sol."

He said the organizations have people directing actions and cited written doctrine he has reviewed.

Flynn linked the concept to events overseas.