Is this the Bryan Turner in Arizona that is the Representative of the John Birch Society.

From the article - "Although I appreciate Mr. Kostric’s love of freedom, this could have easily been taken advantage of by those that hate the Bill of Rights.  An agent provocateur could easily copy these activities, and then take it to the next level by waving it around or, Heaven forbid, fire it in public.  This would allow the media and the government the excuse they are craving to come down so hard they send the freedom movement back into the Stone Age." 

Are you kidding me?  Is this really from the John Birch Society?  You can't play both sides on this issue.  You're either with the Bill of Rights or you aren't.  It's as simple as that.  Shame on you.

I think it's the very same Bryan Turner Ernie.

He makes a point I'd thought about. I'm a "what iffer". What if a liberal or socialist was so inflamed by this that they put on a Gadsden t-shirt and shoot somebody?

The idea isn't without precedent. And let's not forget people like Hal Turner (no relation to Bryan I'm aware of). Come to think of it, there's the Turner Diaries too.....hmmmm.....so I have four possible options to consider:

1. We should take into account not only our intent, but the perception of our actions. "Intimidation exists in the mind of the intimidated" is horrible legal doctrine but it describes a fact of life as far as human responses are concerned.

2. We charge ahead regardless of any response, perception or polarization of the dynamic with the observation that "toning down our rights" is analogous to loosing them and we have no control over the perceptions of others anyway.

3. Some sort of middle path or something new we haven't thought up yet. Historically we're creative, not confrontational. We've managed to capture people's imaginations in a positive way until recently. We have to get out of the reactive, negative mode and back into the proactive positive.

4. Anyone named Turner is bound to stir up trouble. Kick and ban them all now before it's too late.

Yes, it is one and the same. Sorry, that my point on being careful was missed. I was not taking both sides of the issue, I was merely pointing out some cautions that might be wise to consider. 

 There is also Ted Turner.  Boy, you are right, we Turners ought to be round up and exterminated. ;D

I think it's not a bad idea to exercise caution when considering how best to formulate and deliver a message of any kind. You need to consider the target audience, intended interpretation, the context, desired result, etc.

That being said, I couldn't help giving the electronic image of Chris B. a verbal high five with a grunted "Yeah!"

Maybe we should build an enormous and very life like tank out of paper mache.

How about we get to these locations ahead of time, strew maniquins about in contorted positions, spray them with catsup and get fog machines going so when people show up it looks like we're just finished a slaughter? We can just stand around with our firearms, sipping coffee and acting nonchalant.

Naw screw that, too obvious. Let's bring back the blimp, fly it over events and put out the rumor it's full of chemical weapons? Now that should get us some attention.

Want to take it up a notch? When we deploy our army of turban-wearing stuffed animals on parachutes, just watch the crowds go wild.

I think this is more or less along the lines of my option 2 above with a little 3 thrown in.

Show me the law that says I can't deploy turbaned stuffed animals on parachutes above public assemblies from blimps.

I SAID SHOW ME THE LAW!

SHOW ME THE LAW

SHOW ME THE LAW

 Wow!