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Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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The arguments presented here implying that this is not a free country is so moronic. If this lost preacher refers to the freedom of terrorists to kill and destroy anytime time they want, then surveillance and vigilance are the first order of the day. If this so narrow-minded one-directional preacher refers to the freedom of speech as freedom to libel and slander, then only a nation under surveillance to catch the culprits and bring them to justice will set him free.  The rest of his elongated blah-blah are all garbage.  

 


Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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The writer is asking for contribution. By making his presentation of empty verbiage longer, perhaps he expects a bigger donation out of his gobbledygook ... out of this wordy nonsense. With due respect to the Pastor, I cannot be less honest in expressing my opinion, as I expect you to be honest in expressing yours.


Comment by PureTrust
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Every person in the whole world, no matter the government, is free to some extent. No government anywhere on the planet dictates everything to any of its people all of the time. Even the people in Guantanamo are free to breathe on their own, as they freely desire, some of the time. The point is not that America is not a free nation. The point is the direction it is going.

Besides, the freedoms that people in many other nations have, came about because of the freedoms in the United states. Those nations' governments saw the prosperity that freedom brought to the America, and they are envious. They are trying to emulate our prosperity by introducing freedom to their countries. But they are fearful about something that they know so little about. So it is taking a long time.

And here we are, doing away with the freedoms that made us great, all because we are afraid of a bunch of fictional foreign terrorists. The terrorists are right here... the high officials of our own Government... trying to tear down the freedom that it took so long to build.


Comment by Princess Velouria
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I truly pity Joseph Vanderville.  Still a sheep.


Comment by Ken Valentine
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 You're right Princess. Some people wouldn't recognize tyranny if it walked up and told them their fly was open.

As it stands today, government has laws which interfere in every aspect of our lives. They have laws that dictate how many gallons of water your toilet tank may contain.

There are even laws telling you what kind of light bulbs you may buy.


Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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Don't make me laugh. You cannot con me for any donation, not even a cent. Whatever you say about the loss of freedom in this country does not and will not change anything about the United States of America as the freest country in the world! Only terrorists, terrorist suspects and terrorist coddlers say otherwise. A lot of you in the FBI Watch List say otherwise, that's why you are in the security list. Also don't pity me... pity yourself.  You might not know what to do when they come for you.

 


Comment by Suka
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 When there are people like you that bite the hand that feeds you, the more you need a law.


Comment by Princess Velouria
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Wow.  Didn't believe it could happen, but I pity him even more.  He has truly and unconditionally bought all the bullshit.

BTW, they won't come for me, as they know I am quite prepared.


Comment by Joseph Vanderville
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 Using the pulpit to con people for a measly dollar is worse than baring a princess' thigh to mulct a dollar from sexual perverts driving by the sidewalk looking for sex.


Comment by Suka
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 JV, good you brought this out.  I noticed that at the end of what this Pastor writes, he asks for "contribution" or "donation". Aside from the fact that he wastes so much space preaching what the readers already knew, asking and collecting dollar donations make his motive suspect.  Besides, it does not make his writing trustworthy, and his image respectable at all.

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