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Comment by PureTrust
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What does it matter? If it is true, if he wasn't born in Kenya, then it is one little truth among the many lies that make up what he is.


Comment by doc-S
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 Lets see, Obama is a US citizen right? Hmmm, the hospital they, the official guys,  say he was born in over in Hawaii didn't even exist until AFTER Obama was born. "They" own you Mike. Better do some real research on your own, not where "they" tell you to look. 


Comment by Powell Gammill
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Obama: Sometimes When Things Get Really Stressful, I Close My Eyes, Sit Back, And Pretend I’m Back In Kenya


Comment by PureTrust
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If Obama WAS born in Hawaii, why would he say something like Powell just brought up, below? Because he a liar. Even when he tells the truth, he is lying, because he is acting outside his nature.

Who knows for sure why he lies? One thing is certain. The more he blatantly lies, with the people knowing that he lies, and gets away with it, the more he solidifies his strength. And the less is the focus on the Congress who could do something about him in a minute if they really wanted.

In fact, blame Obama for everything that's going wrong. And when you are sick of blaming him, blame Congress. But surely the banking system isn't to blame!


Comment by Hawkeye
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Go back to wherever you came from...you have no proof that Barry was born in the US.


Comment by Sharon Jarvis
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Obama's birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspapers back then.  Some of you birthers claim the announcement was put in the newspapers all those decades ago because the plan was already in place to make him president.  If that idea isn't loony, I don't know what is.

 According to the laws of the U.S., if your mother is a U.S. citizen and your parents are legally married, it does not matter if your father is from a foreign country or even if you were born in a foreign country--you are still an American citizen.  Otherwise, every pregnant woman would be afraid to travel (and John McCain wouldn't be a citizen either).  So all this crap about forged birth certificates proves how many people are completely stupid and don't bother to actually learn facts.


Comment by TL Winslow
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Sorry, but it's too early to pontificate one way or the other about Obama. One thing for sure, there's a massive coverup of his past run right out of the White House. As to his birthplace, maybe Obama himself doesn't know, but now that he's been sworn in twice he can probably cite the grandfather clause no matter what is dug up.  If you really want to learn about Obama's shady past with all the complexity, there's only one place, my Obamascope, totally free, except for the time and mental work required to sponge it.  http://tinyurl.com/obamascope 


Comment by TheRockster
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Why do you publish utter lies like this article? If this continues, I will unsubscribe and limit my news to RRND.


Comment by PureTrust
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If Obama truly WAS born in Hawaii, OF parents who were citizens of the US, then he is more of a US citizen than most of the rest of us. Why? Because Alaska and Hawaii became States AFTER the D.C. Corporation that took over from the Trust United States of America was set in place. They are de-facto States, and not really States at all, because the de-facto US does not have the authority of the de-jure US to make the same kind of States and the original Trust United States of America. The de-facto states of Alaska and Hawaii are de-facto property of the de-facto D.C Corporation. They are NOT free, sovereign States like the rest of the States. In other words, they are still territories, even though Corp. D.C. calls them States. So, Obama was possibly born in the US more than those of us who were born in the contiguous 48 States that are sovereign, separate entities from the D.C. de-facto United States.

Evidence for the above can be drawn out of and pieced together from many sources. The easiest place to see that it is true can be found at http://www.teamlaw.net/.
 


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Comment by Curtis Coulter
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The irregularity(s) in the birth certificate are of little concern to the American people.  The man is a liar, and a thief.  He is treasonous in so many functions that it makes little if any difference where he was born.  The fact that he hides every aspect of his life, education, and preferences is sufficient to have his sorry butt thrown in prison for the remainder of his life.

Those are facts.  Now... no one cares where he was born, we only care where he is living, and at the expense of this once great country.


Comment by AZRanger
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 Renzulli, you are a douchebag! Ernie, I cannot believe that you are actually publishing this bullshit! BO is not a natural-born citizen of this country under a multitude of reasons. And, you damn-well know it! So, why are you putting this dipsticks info on these pages?

Not that it is a big deal, as I am only one guy in this state, but if I continue to see the Communist agenda being promoted by your pages, I will cancel my receipt of your publication.

I have very strong opinions whern it comes to the Communist takeover of our Repubic, and I have felt you publication has always stood for freedom and liberty, and NOT for the going along to get along!

Ernie, please don't become one of the Communist appologists we see propogating the airwaves every day on the letter networks, you are much better than that.

AZRanger


Comment by PureTrust
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Seems to me that if Ernie had not published Renzulli's article, there would have been little discussion. Even if Renzulli or someone else had gotten an article published here, stating in good form exactly the opposite of what Renzulli stated, the comments would have been far fewer.

Sometimes, if only to test the attitudes and consensus of the people, we need to see some of the opposing points of view. I accept Ernie's publishing of this article. This doesn't mean that I agree with what the article says.

It doesn't mean that Ernie or Powell necessarily agree with statements in the article.


Comment by AZRanger
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Sharon Jarvis called those of us who are not sold on the fat theat BO is a US Citizen! She called us stupid.

 "Comment by: Sharon Jarvis (#013429)
   Entered on: 2013-06-22 08:03:54

Obama's birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspapers back then.  Some of you birthers claim the announcement was put in the newspapers all those decades ago because the plan was already in place to make him president.  If that idea isn't loony, I don't know what is.

 According to the laws of the U.S., if your mother is a U.S. citizen and your parents are legally married, it does not matter if your father is from a foreign country or even if you were born in a foreign country--you are still an American citizen.  Otherwise, every pregnant woman would be afraid to travel (and John McCain wouldn't be a citizen either).  So all this crap about forged birth certificates proves how many people are completely stupid and don't bother to actually learn facts."

Sharon, there are 2 problems with your argument. 1st, the father was NOT a citizen, therefore in order to confer citizenship, the mother had to be a certain age in order to confer a NATURAL-BORN citizenhip on BO. She failed that date by about 4 months! 2nd if he was indeed adopted by the Indonesian father, and his citizenship conferred to Indonesia, he then lost his US citizenship, because the US DOES NOT  recognize dual citizenship, and certainly did not at that time!

3rd, the vasrious PDFs of his birth certificates have all been doctored and are completely fraudulent! That has been proven by document experts on several occasions. Lastly, even if he is a "natural born" citizen, which I do not believe he is, he has committed enough illegal activities as to be eligible to be tried on high crimes and misdomeanors. And so, should be impeached from office, and then tried on the crimes of social security fraauuds, and impersonating a citizen of the US! Jail time is too good for that piece of crap Commuist asshole!

AZR


Comment by PureTrust
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The problem runs a lot deeper. The States should be recalling and/or impeaching their Senators and Congressmen for not impeaching the President. But where is State Government on this issue? And why are the people not demanding their States do something? Perhaps the people don't care. Or, maybe they don't know what to do. Or has legal form in America gone so far down the tubes that the people CAN'T do anything meaningful along these lines?


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