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December ??, 2011 - Ray McGovern - ex CIA Analyst - Pakistan, Syria - Also, NDAA

Ray McGovern, ex-CIA analyst for Kennedy and Bush (Sr) - Are we headed for war(s) again? Also, discusses the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) just passed by the Senate

Program Date:  Monday, December 12, 2011

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Topics War, NDAA

December ?? 2011, on
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Ray McGovern
Ex-CIA Analyst
Webpage:  RaymondMcGovern.Com

Recent Posts to Ray's Webpage Include:

The Real News Network Interviews: Ray and Col. Larry Wilkerson address the draconian language in National Defense Authorization Act just passed by the Senate

1.  Military to Gain Power of Indefinite Detention in Senate Bill - Ray interviewed by Paul Jay  12.6.11

2.  Larry Wilkerson on the slide toward “tyranny” reflected in draconian language of National Defense Authorization Act passed by the Senate;  7 and a half-minute interview  12.9.11


For those preferring not to have the Army kicking in your door and carting you off to Guantanamo never to be seen again, here are two articles you my wish to read — one from Ray and one from former FBI special agent and counsel, Coleen Rowley.
As you may be aware, a majority in the Congress want to use our armed forces against “terrorsymps” — here at home, too.  Forget the Constitution, and the Posse Comitatus Act. Have you not heard? “After 9/11 everything changed” — and continues to change.  If the President does not veto the National Defense Authorization Act, we are on the road to becoming even more like Germany in the Thirties.  Read the following articles to get a feel for what seems to be coming down:

1.  Ray’s “Are Americans in Line for Gitmo”  12.3.11

2.  Coleen’s “Bringing the War on Terror Home”  12.4.11



US-Pakistan Tensions: Ray interviewed on presstv  12.5.11

Ray's Bio:
Ray McGovern leads the “Speaking Truth to Power”

section of Tell the Word, an expression of the ecumenical
Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington.  He also
teaches at its Servant Leadership School.

Ray came from his native New York to Washington in the
early Sixties as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and
then served as a CIA analyst from the administration of
John F. Kennedy to that of George H. W. Bush. Ray’s
duties included chairing National Intelligence Estimates
and preparing the President’s Daily Brief, which he
briefed one-on-one to President Ronald Reagan’s most
senior national security advisers from 1981 to 1985.

In January 2003, Ray helped create Veteran Intelligence
Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) to expose the way
intelligence was being falsified to “justify” war on Iraq. On
the afternoon of the day (Feb. 5, 2003) Secretary of State
Colin Powell misled the UN Security Council on Iraq,
VIPS sent an urgent memorandum to President George
W. Bush, in which we gave Powell a C minus for content.
We ended the memo with this:

“No one has a corner on the truth; nor do we harbor illusions that our analysis is irrefutable or undeniable [as Powell had claimed]. But after watching Secretary Powell today, we are convinced that you would be well served if you widened the discussion beyond … the circle of those advisers clearly bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic.”

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, after a five-year study by his committee, described the intelligence used to “justify” war on Iraq as “unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent.”

As an act of conscience, on March 2, 2006 Ray returned the Intelligence Commendation Medallion given him at retirement for “especially meritorious service,” explaining, “I do not want to be associated, however remotely, with an agency engaged in torture.”  He returned it to Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R, Michigan), then-House Intelligence Committee Chairman.

Hoekstra then added to the Intelligence Authorization Act for FY’07 (HR5020) a provision that could have enabled the government to strip intelligence veterans of their government pensions.  HR5020 passed the full House, but Congress opted instead for a continuing resolution.  Thus, Ray was spared from having to go back to driving part-time for Red Top Cab.

On May 4 in Atlanta, Ray made national news by confronting Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on live TV with pointed questions like: “Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary and that has caused these kinds of casualties?” (The impromptu, four-minute mini-debate that followed is still receiving hits on You Tube.)

Ray’s opinion pieces have appeared in many leading newspapers here and abroad.  His website writings are posted first on, and are usually carried on other websites as well.  He has debated at the Oxford Forum and appeared on Charlie Rose, The Newshour, CNN, and numerous other TV & radio programs and documentaries. Ray has lectured to a wide variety of audiences here and abroad.

Ray studied theology and philosophy (as well as his major, Russian) at Fordham University, from which he holds two degrees.  He also holds a Certificate in Theological Studies from Georgetown University.  A Catholic, Mr. McGovern has been worshipping for over a decade with the ecumenical Church of the Saviour and teaching at its Servant Leadership School.  He was co-director of the school from 1998 to 2004.

He has been invited to lecture at various interfaith and ecumenical events, and has given the sermon at a number of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.  He is particularly fond of the “substitute teaching” he has been invited to do at universities and colleges.

Fluent in Russian, German, and Spanish, Ray holds an M.A. in Russian from Fordham University and a Certificate in Theological Studies from Georgetown.  He is also a graduate of Harvard Business School’s Advanced Management Program.  He and his wife have been married for 50 years; they have five children and eight grandchildren.


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