(Natural News) CNN's Chris "Fredo" Cuomo spoke to former Planned Parenthood president Dr. Leana Wen the other day about the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) mass injection campaign, during which she openly admitted that "freedom" must be dangled in front of Americans like a "carrot" to coerce them into complying.

There is still so much vaccine "hesitancy" that Wen feels as though businesses need to remain closed and lives ruined if there is going to be any "incentive" at all for unvaccinated stragglers to finally agree to get jabbed.

"If everything is reopened, then what's the carrot going to be?" Wen asked Cuomo. "How are we going to incentivize people to actually get the vaccine?"

In Wen's view, the Biden regime must team up with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to make an even bolder statement about the need to be "vaccinated" in order to bring about a new "normal."

"So that's why I think the CDC and Biden [regime] needs to come out a lot bolder and say, 'If you are vaccinated, you can do all these things. Here are all these freedoms you have,'" Wen stated, indicating that she believes the government grants people "freedom."