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05-29-2008
2008-05-29 16:36
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"'They're treating their rules like they're the U.S. Constitution and the Ten Commandments,' said former Gov. James Blanchard, a Clinton supporter."
So, the rule book is on the floor and everybody's pissing on it? Strange.
05-29-2008
2008-05-29 16:32
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Hillary and Obama's fate ALL hinges on whether the FLorida and Michigan delegates will be seated. Hillary won both states. A large number of delegates. But because they both defied Democratic rules by conducting their primaries before the Iowa/New Hampshire primaries the Democratic Party rules call for their delegates being blocked from participating.
So far the Democratic Party has stuck to the rules. If they continue to do so, Obabma wins. It is that close.
If they relent and allow the delegates seated Hillary wins.
If they compromise and 50% of each state's delegates are seated then, 1) who gets to chose which of the 50% go? and 2) it becomes a Sept. tossup for the convention.
President McCain? How can the Democrats screw this up?
5-26-2008
2008-05-29 11:26
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Please note -- some kind of glitch occurred -- the last paragraph appearing in my post (above) -- referring to the "joke" -- did not come from me -- it was part of oneidea's post.
5-26-2008
2008-05-29 11:22
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oneidea2112 wrote, in part:
"The media puts the information out into the Public airwaves therefore it is now the property of whoever receives the information and like all information can be disseminated to anyone at will."
Response:
Oneidea's statement is misleading and untrue in several ways:
(1) When the media broadcast (without the owner's permission) something that is copyrighted, they have violated the copyrights of the owner. The Copyright Act of 1976 makes that clear.
(2) Broadcasting publicly, without permission, a written or visual work (for example) does not divest the owner of his or her copyrights in the work. Quite the contrary: the unauthorized broadcast is a copyright infringement for which there may be actual or statutory damages and potential attorneys' fees recovered.
(3) Information that is publicly broadcast cannot be "disseminated at will." Such "dissemination" would be additional copyright infringement, even if considered "innocent" (not intentional).
It is the same with a book that you write (even if you don't register a copyright). If someone takes the book and publishes its entire contents on-line, the book and its copyrights still belong to you. The person who "disseminated" it has infringed your copyright. Anyone who makes a copy of the "disseminated" book is also an infringer.
The reason why you can record copyrighted television programs on your VCR is that (1) the owner of the program consented to the initial broadcast, and (2) the copyright law and court precedents say that making a private copy of a lawfully broadcast program is deemed "fair use" and not a copyright violation
If you sell or even make copies and distribute the program you copied on your VCR, you are mostly likely a copyright infringer. (The only uncertainty would be about whether the program itself was still under copyright protection or not).
The issue remains: will libertarians stand on principle to support the private property rights of the inventors and creators? Or will libertarians claim that other people's creative workproduct is collectively-owned public property that can be copied and given away via the Internet without paying the owner?
It's no different that a joke a person tells me a joke and I am now free to tell that joke to whoever I want to. They would need to have everyone who watches their shows sign a non disclosure agreement to enforce their intellectual property "rights"
5-28-2008
2008-05-29 08:54
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The WaPo article had a smeary tone, but in actuality was majorly complimentary. It's a testament to Dr. Paul's frugality - total familial payments (including the services of Wayne Paul's accounting firm) are a whopping 0.3% of total money raised!
Additionally, payments to Rand (and, I suspect, others) were actually reimbursements for campaign expenditures. Rand notes the princely sum of $345.55 he was paid was reimbursement for air fare to Montana to work for the campaign gratis. Meanwhile, the rest of his travel was done out of his own pocket.
5-26-2008
2008-05-29 05:39
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This argument is old as mud. The wizdom of the old hunters, prevails. Use enough gun is not just
a catch-phrase. Personally, for the type of door-
kicking room-to-room close combat being encounterd, give me an automatic 12 gauge shotgun! We love OO Buckshot! It's good for carom-shots off floors, and around corners, too.
5-27-2008
2008-05-28 18:32
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He is a real piece of shit.
5-27-2008
2008-05-28 18:31
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What do you expect from illegal trash.
5-27-2008
2008-05-28 18:19
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This the crap they teach these people in law school. They don't even understand the constitution. Shame on them.
5-27-2008
2008-05-28 18:15
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I hope he creams that anti gun bastard.
05-25-2008
2008-05-28 14:44
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Not for the faint at heart.
5-28-2008
2008-05-28 14:00
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A googlebattle.com match of Christine Smith v. Bob Barr returns 271,000 for Smith and 637,000 for Barr so as far as being internet relavant Smith is currently less so. Of course I am sure Darth Vader also scores higher than Smith but heh this is popularity/politics what do you expect when you engage in voting?
http://www.googlebattle.com/index.php?domain=%22Christine+Smith%22&domain2=%22Bob+Barr%22&submit=Go%21
5-28-2008
2008-05-28 13:03
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see also:
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/05/ron-paul-grassr.html
5-27-2008
2008-05-28 11:49
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I could not agree more with Dennis. I was in Miami a few years ago. It is a vibrant, wealthy city mostly due to the influx of Latin American immigrants that settled there starting with the Cubans.
The influx of immigrants today is no different than those of years past. All Woolridge is doing is blowing his horn.
5-27-2008
2008-05-28 05:50
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Other than blowing up chemical storage tanks or radiation sources "dirty bomb", this is a fantasy...unless it is cover for a false flag operation. Terrorists do not have workable biological or nuclear weapons.
5-26-2008
2008-05-27 19:54
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Just like the boneheads don't listen to the people
that is using the product.
05-27-2008
2008-05-27 18:18
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Spot on!
05-27-08
2008-05-27 17:55
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I always love hearing from the pro-immigration restrictions crowd who sing the praises of "free market" out of the other side of their mouths while using government force to restrict the free market supply of labor out of the other. Thereby driving the costs of that labor up. Decreasing the supply of money in our wallets. Growing government programs (enforcement), government corruption, organized crime, leading to more government programs (enforcement), that increases government power, decreases citizen freedom and earnings.... If they cannot keep drugs out of prison, they cannot keep Mexicans out of Arizona. Get over it.
5-27-2008
2008-05-27 13:57
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You definitely do not want to watch an LP CONvention sober. I drove over to the Argonaut liquor store the first night I was in Denver to by a 750ml of Gentleman Jack. Saved my life.
05-27-08
2008-05-27 13:43
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Helper, not lead, helper on a crew installing HVAC systems in new homes in Reno, NV in 2005: $250,000
$100/ton * 3 tons/home * 16 homes/week * 52 weeks/yr = $249,600/year
Local non-Hispanic applicants for the position: 2
Average time on the job for those applicants: 1 week
Number of trips I flew to Reno ferrying workers from Las Vegas: 2/week
Sympathy I hold for the cry of BS in the video: 0
5-27-2008
2008-05-27 12:57
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It is convenient to have short and selective memories. During the 1950's (BC--Before Cubans), Miami was a dying city with a declining population and empty stores.
5-26-2008
2008-05-27 11:46
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This is the same argument made over 40 years ago in Southeast Asia - a .223 round from an M-16 versus a .306 round from an M-14
In Iraq? I'll take the .306 thank you.
5-27-2008
2008-05-27 10:45
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Bob Barr how on god green earth did he win. Gravel would have been a better candidate. and Gravel isn't even my top choice!
5-26-2008
2008-05-27 10:38
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This is easy. The media puts the information out into the Public airwaves therefore it is now the property of whoever receives the information and like all information can be disseminated to anyone at will. It's no different that a joke a person tells me a joke and I am now free to tell that joke to whoever I want to. They would need to have everyone who watches their shows sign a non disclosure agreement to enforce their intellectual property "rights"
5-26-2008
2008-05-27 09:07
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It will be interesting to see how libertarians deal philosophically with the copyright infringement lawsuit against YouTube. Consider:
(1) Libertarians are adamantly pro-property rights.
(2) Many libertarians hold the U.S. Constitution in high esteem, and the Constitution expressly confers the power upon Congress to establish copyright protection for the legal rights of authors and creators to their intellectual property (copyrights, patents).
(3) Many libertarians hold Ayn Rand's views in high regard, and Ayn Rand's novels most certainly advocated the rights of the creative and productive person to own and control how his or her work product was sold or used by others.
At the same time, many of today's libertarians view the Internet as the vast network promoting the free exchange of ideas, a vital part of the underground information economy that stands against government monopolies on the flow of information.
Many libertarians also think nothing of copying and using other people's work product for their "private use," because it seems "free" for the taking.
On classical liberal principles, protecting and enforcing the rights of creative, productive people is a mainstay of the protection of the right to private property.
The libertarian position -- for libertarians who take our principles seriously -- must be to support the lawsuit against YouTube. Space prevents detailing why, but it is quite clear that YouTube is a clearing house for wholesale copyright infringement of the worst kind. In a word: YouTube faciliates the stealing of other people's work.
The libertarian alternative would be to encourage new methods to protect the creators' rights to their work product, while also making the work product available to people.
Napster might be a model -- charging low fees to people who want to use YouTube videos -- and funneling the fees to the owners of the work product. The result of the Napster model is to encourage producers to make their work product available to a fee-paying public.
In short: Libertarian principles suggest (1) protecting the rights of creators to their intellectual property, and (2) finding market-based solutions to enhance access to that property using technology to produce a win-win for producers and consumers.
-R Stevens
5-26-2008
2008-05-27 09:05
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It will be interesting to see how libertarians deal philosophically with the copyright infringement lawsuit against YouTube. Consider:
(1) Libertarians are adamantly pro-property rights.
(2) Many libertarians hold the U.S. Constitution in high esteem, and the Constitution expressly confers the power upon Congress to establish copyright protection for the legal rights of authors and creators to their intellectual property (copyrights, patents).
(3) Many libertarians hold Ayn Rand's views in high regard, and Ayn Rand's novels most certainly advocated the rights of the creative and productive person to own and control how his or her work product was sold or used by others.
At the same time, many of today's libertarians view the Internet as the vast network promoting the free exchange of ideas, a vital part of the underground information economy that stands against government monopolies on the flow of information.
Many libertarians also think nothing of copying and using other people's work product for their "private use," because it seems "free" for the taking (akin to TV shows on the "public airwaves").
On classical liberal principles, protecting and enforcing the rights of creative, productive people is a mainstay of the protection of the right to private property.
The libertarian position -- for libertarians who take our principles seriously -- must be to support the lawsuit against YouTube. Space prevents detailing why, but it is quite clear that YouTube is a clearing house for wholesale copyright infringement of the worst kind. In a word: YouTube faciliates the stealing of other people's work.
The libertarian alternative would be to encourage new methods to protect the creators' rights to their work product, while also making the work product available to people.
Napster might be a model -- charging low fees to people who want to use YouTube videos -- and funneling the fees to the owners of the work product. The result of the Napster model is to encourage producers to make their work product available to a fee-paying public.
In short: Libertarian principles suggest (1) protecting the rights of creators to their intellectual property, and (2) finding market-based solutions to enhance access to that property using technology to produce a win-win for producers and consumers.
-R Stevens
5-25-2008
2008-05-27 02:28
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We need NAMES.
Who is this Judge?
Who are the people helping this Judge commit such treason?
Who are the FBI,CIA,and other agents that are doing to dirty work,aka,(B & Es/Threats)?
Who are these people?
Let`s see some faces.They must be exposed to the American people....NOW!!!! not in the next decade....NOW!!!!
5-25-2008
2008-05-26 19:02
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That don't suprise me one bit.
5-25-2008
2008-05-26 19:00
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Where is the crumy ACLU when you need it,if it involved something like removing the 10 commandments they would be right there.
5-26-2008
2008-05-26 14:17
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