Ernest Hancock
Letters to the Editor • Voting and Elections
Voting is Tough; lying out of both sides of their mouth
A Two Party System; really. One is lying as much as the other, and we know the two political parties I’m writing about, yet the typical voter in this country continues to attempt to vote for the lesser of two evils. Even people who are educated and well read, just can’t believe that the system is as rigged as it is and therefore each year, go through the grueling task of trying to determine which of the two primary candidates are lying to them the least.
Who are you going to vote for survey is at the bottom of this article.
What we are really doing is trying to determine what Party is going to do the least damage to our society because that has been the historical results over the last 50 years. Every time someone says to me that Ron Paul or Gary Johnson can’t win, my first thought is, dumb ass. The main stream media has said that so often that people actually believe it and anybody whom believes the main stream media (MSM) is not part of the lying apparatus, must be in a coma.
The age old joke, “How do you tell when a politician is lying? their mouth is moving” is obviously true. All one has to do is google the campaign promises of those elected at just about every level of government to provide the evidence. Are they just flat out lying to us or are they to stupid to know that they will never get their campaign promises enacted; either way, they are not suitable as elected representatives.
We libertarians always have the additional dilemma of voting for the lesser of two evils or the Libertarian Party nominee which the MSM literally almost blacklists in their relentless pursuit of pleasing the ruling class. My god, if everyone knew some of the manipulation and misrepresentations that were used by the Republican State Committees and the RNC in this years primaries to make sure the libertarian and Republican Governor for Texas, Dr. Ron Paul did not get nominated, they would have a much better picture of the problem. Of course once again we have the MSM to thank for that. They don’t care who really wins, just so it not a libertarian, even though we have been telling this country for 38 years now, that if we didn’t drastically change the political course of our nation, that we would go through the economic collapse we are currently experiencing. We even gave our society a long term plan to get us to financial and social prosperity and peace. Apparently they would rather continue to try to figure out which party is lying to them the least.
As far as the libertarians go, we continue to hit our heads against the wall trying to figure out who to vote for. Do we go along with the crowd and try to figure out who is going to harm this country the least, since we know they’re both lying, or do we vote our conscience and vote for the Libertarian Party candidate, whom, "I’m told", has little or no chance, Gary Johnson. Add in the ability to write in Ron Paul who is really the most senior Statesman, representing the Austrian Economic School and whose really knows what the hell, we as knowleable people should do.
Now add in the fact that we are trying to utilize a failed system (democracy or a democratic republic) to foster and implement our philosophy that has never worked over time nor has ever provided what is in the best interest of the majority, and we add in another layer of irrationality to our voting determination.
Perhaps we should really vote our conscience and start putting our time and financial resources into viable education and promotional programs. Is running political candidates via a political party really the best use of our resources; it’s totally burnt me out.
Now add in the ability to potentially foil the election for the Republicans since they need the libertarian and independents to get the Presidency. I think that I might actually, god help me, vote for Barack Obama. Like it really matters whether Romney or Obama wins?
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7 Comments in Response to Voting is Tough; lying out of both sides of their mouth
Listen up, Panocha! You, as usual, completely avoid the issues I raise and make patently false statements about me, and slander me. I never claimed to be a banker, as you say, only that I observed the characters of such miscreants. I do not need anyone to advise me what a banker is. You accuse me of being a "hillbilly" or a "rustic". You accuse me of being someone I am not. I am not pretentious. I have always used "McElchap" as my "handle" here on FP, and nothing else. Hancock and Gammill would know this. You are not my spiritual counselor, nor are you even remotely qualified to be. I am not a hillbilly, but I prefer a more rustic lifestyle. Unlike you, and the "Avengers", I am an anti-corporatist rather than a corporatist. You might recall "corporatist" is another word for "fascist". You insult my education. You abuse the issue of my faith. You lie incessantly, and resort constantly to character assassination rather presenting ANY facts or rationale to counter any arguments. You betray your ignorance and lack of class everytime you put your trash out here for all to see. To read you is like watching an ape hurling feces!
Suka, I think you should get rid of McElchop's intense anger first. Gracious me! It is turning him into a mental Cyclope [seeing things with hardly an eye].
Hey, Elchop-chop, don’t forget for a second that as a Psychologist-Psychiatrist, I am your Spiritual Counselor and Mental Nanny.
Come down to reality – you must listen to me … you don’t have any credential to crow about. It appears that whatever education you claim you have, maybe you didn’t even finish grade six, the way you think, and the way you behave yourself.
You do not appear to be urban-like, you are awkward, as ignorant as a hillbilly, and dangerously rustic. That’s my preliminary psychological assessment of yourself.
It may even shock you to know that you don’t even have this ordinary credential in education and in manners and right conduct when you pretended to be a “banker” just because you live in a neighborhood with a banker, and fooled the public that you have a credential in banking when you don’t even understand what banking is all about.
And recall that JV tried to help you by explaining to you what a banker is. Don't be a despicable ingrate. You can read back your comments where you discredited yourself in trying to be what you are not and can never be. Such frustration gnaws in your brain turning you into a mean person. Most likely soon you will kill out of this drilling pain of frustration inside your brain.
You claimed that you are a follower of Christ, but I am afraid that when you attempt to enter the Gate of Heaven by pretending to be a banker when you are not, Christ will tell you to step aside and let others pass through who have their rightful credentials, not a fake one like yours.
Your badmouth English is even bad to the ears of the Lord that He would order you not to open your mouth anymore to hear your protests and frustrations. The Lord will just cast you back to Limbo, and worse, back to Hell where cheats with no self-respect like you rightfully belong.
I will brief you more about this in your next session on the couch.
Hey, Suka! Your poor grammar defeats you in your first sentence. Hah! As the weakest of the "Avengers", you should stay behind and make coffee for your persistent team of trolls. Many, including an engineer who helped to design electronic voting machines, testified the voting machines were specifically engineered to be rigged to skew the vote by remote control. The GOP treatment of Ron Paul was obviously fraudulent and often the GOP was caught red-handed on tape. But that is of no consequence to you, is it? Or how about Rev. Deforest Soaries, appointed by George W. Bush to head the Federal Election Commission, who resigned stating the whole election system was rigged for fraud? Many of these stories were published by Breitbart. But, you don't get out of the federally funded trolls' boiler room often, do you?
Does he accept this reality? No. Does he accept the truth that Ron Paul or his Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson will NEVER, NEVER get elected President of the United States… hell, no. He denies this real IMPOSSIBILITY.
And he blames the two-party system for it, the Media and everything he could think of are at fault for the rejection of his candidates the American people consider UNELECTABLE.
He is in a perpetual self-denial and everlasting condemnation of this REALITY, until he turns blue but he will never change. People not in touch with reality definitely need help!
@John Gress (#048393) Generally a childish comment like you made is an indication of ones intellectual level? If you disagree with me at least have the decency to tell the readers why. See, that is where the problems lies, you can't so the best you can do is to use silly names and criticism. This is common practice by the communists, fascists and lame stream media. It's a type of logical fallacy that many people sadly fall for. Ignorance is also one of the primary reasons democracies fail over time and do not produce the desired results for the majority. Hopefully you understand some day.
.." I think that I might actually, god help me, vote for Barack Obama. Like it really matters whether Romney or Obama wins?"
Useful idiot comes to mind illustrates your 'in denial' perspective with your head in the sand.