Their new book, One Cow Revolution, lays out how one good dairy cow can feed your family, restore your pasture, and give you more freedom than you might expect. We get into their story, the beginner mistakes they made, why grazing matters, and how ordinary families can make this work even on rough or limited land.

If you've ever wondered whether a milk cow ties you down or actually sets you free, this conversation will give you a fresh perspective. Stick around. You're not going to want to miss this one.